Why Baptism Doesn't Wash Away Sins, Acts 10:43

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Originally Posted by seekerman

They're not hypothetical. See my story above.



Contradictory scripture. Either baptism saves or it does't.

Baptism SAVES. Peter said flatly.

But the overall context of all scripture shows IT IS PART OF SALVATION, not salvation in baptism alone.

You have to say Peter was not complete when you say Baptism DOES NOT SAVE since Peter flatly stated it does save.

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Does baptism now save us? No, it doesn't, it's baptism plus something else in another scripture....

Obviously, BUT IT IS PART OF SALVATION. You cannot read Peter and see him say "baptism doth also now even save us," and say baptism is not part of SALVATION WITHOUT PURPOSELY DISTORTING HIS WORDS AND NOT WANTING TO BELIEVE BAPTISM IS PART OF SALVATION.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

That passage is at odds with 1 Peter 3:21. Or at the very least, 1 Peter 3:21 is lacking, is incomplete. One cannot take 1 Peter 3:21 at face value.

Yes one can. Baptism saves and belief and baptism saves. The picture is obvious.

So a person says, ok I believe and I'm baptized. I'm saved and some would say, hold on, not so fast. Have you received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues? You may have believed, been baptized (and it must be an acceptable baptism) but you still aren't saved. Even though 1 Peter says you are saved when you're baptized, Jesus Himself said that you must believe and be baptized. Paul was lacking in his discourse. He didn't even mention Spirit baptism.

The entirety of the picture shows baptism is PART of salvation. Period.

So, we pick and choose which scriptures to use in order to support our theology and argue and quote and argue and quote and accomplish little, if anything, for the Kingdom of God.

No, you are twisting the picture. Saying baptism saves does not mean it alone saves. it has salvation involved with it. It saves. the idea that baptism is not part of salvation is more far out than what you are trying to make Peter say.