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11-12-2013, 09:53 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Double Whammy
He was the perfect man. He could've said, "you're right, I am good" and he wouldn't have been lying. But He was the Son of God. Do sons of God go about thinking they're good or statig they're good? No. Paul said "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus." He did not grasp after equality with God, He made of Himself no reputation. He was humble and obdient. Wherefore God has given Him a name that is highly exalted.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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11-12-2013, 09:57 PM
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Re: Double Whammy
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I don't read every thread and every post and I will confess that I usually don't read LONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG posts, either. So I must have missed where you deny that Jesus is God.
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There's been several argu...uh....discussions with various folks on the forum about that very thing. Probably they were before you joined.
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11-13-2013, 08:05 AM
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Temporary Occupant of Earth
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Re: Double Whammy
Didn't Joel Hemphill try to resurrect the Jesus isn't God message recently?
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11-13-2013, 10:25 AM
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Re: Double Whammy
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Didn't Joel Hemphill try to resurrect the Jesus isn't God message recently?
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He's doing very well with that. The last seminar I attended had UPC ministers also attending who agree with his doctrine.
For the record, I don't completely agree with his view.
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11-13-2013, 11:36 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Double Whammy
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Originally Posted by seekerman
He's indicating that He's not good, only His God and Father is good. You're wishing to change the scripture to read that Jesus said, there is none good except for me. But that's not what He said.
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No, pay attention closely. He said 'why do you call me good? There is none good except God.'
Now, since YOU say he is not God, you must then believe he is not good.
For, according to his own words, NOBODY (including himself) is good EXCEPT GOD.
Either he is good, which must mean he is God, or he is not God, which must mean he is not good.
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11-13-2013, 11:38 AM
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Re: Double Whammy
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He was the perfect man. He could've said, "you're right, I am good" and he wouldn't have been lying. But He was the Son of God. Do sons of God go about thinking they're good or statig they're good? No. Paul said "Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus." He did not grasp after equality with God, He made of Himself no reputation. He was humble and obdient. Wherefore God has given Him a name that is highly exalted.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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11-13-2013, 11:43 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Double Whammy
Apparently Hemphill believes in 'divine flesh' as well (ie Jesus is not descended from Adam in any way).
From one heresy into another.
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11-13-2013, 11:44 AM
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Re: Double Whammy
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Originally Posted by Esaias
No, pay attention closely. He said 'why do you call me good? There is none good except God.'
Now, since YOU say he is not God, you must then believe he is not good.
For, according to his own words, NOBODY (including himself) is good EXCEPT GOD.
Either he is good, which must mean he is God, or he is not God, which must mean he is not good.
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He certainly didn't claim to be good....or God in the passage. Again, you're attempting to force Him to say 'I'm good because I'm God', something He didn't say.
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11-13-2013, 11:55 AM
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Re: Double Whammy
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Originally Posted by seekerman
He certainly didn't claim to be good....or God in the passage. Again, you're attempting to force Him to say 'I'm good because I'm God', something He didn't say.
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I'm not forcing him to say anything. I am simply repeating what he said - there is none good except God.
So, since there is none good except God, and Jesus is not God, Jesus must not be good.
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11-13-2013, 12:05 PM
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Re: Double Whammy
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I'm not forcing him to say anything. I am simply repeating what he said - there is none good except God.
So, since there is none good except God, and Jesus is not God, Jesus must not be good.
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Using that logic, since Jesus is God and Jesus has a God, then God has a God. Since Jesus is God and Jesus died, then God died.
Stick with scripture. Jesus didn't claim to be God in the passage, simple as that.
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