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11-24-2013, 02:37 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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In the days I was around them the chief apostle in America wore glasses.
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Hats off to every person that "trusts God" for anything, but if you gonna preach "trust God TOTALLY", then no eye glasses or no going to the bank for a loan.
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11-24-2013, 02:48 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
I can see the difference between eye glasses and invasive procedures...
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11-24-2013, 02:48 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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How many babies died because of their advice?
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How many babies have died because of birth control pills? Just sayin'.
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11-24-2013, 02:53 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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I can see the difference between eye glasses and invasive procedures...
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Me too. But if you are going to throw out all of the doctors and medical assistance.........
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11-24-2013, 03:21 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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How many babies have died because of birth control pills? Just sayin'.
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So you are agreeing we should preach its a sin to go to Doctors?
BTW I never buy the "just sayin" thing. Everyone has a reason or agenda
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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11-24-2013, 03:35 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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So you are agreeing we should preach its a sin to go to Doctors?
BTW I never buy the "just sayin" thing. Everyone has a reason or agenda
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I guess I wonder how someone could take a middle of the road approach without it being misconstrued into a no doctor's or hell doctrine by some, even if it wasn't taught that way. Of course, if it is taught that way that is a definite problem. I don't believe it is a sin to go to a doctor nor do I believe it is a sin to not go if you feel that is what you should do.
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11-24-2013, 03:39 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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I guess I wonder how someone could take a middle of the road approach without it being misconstrued into a no doctor's or hell doctrine by some, even if it wasn't taught that way. Of course, if it is taught that way that is a definite problem. I don't believe it is a sin to go to a doctor nor do I believe it is a sin to not go if you feel that is what you should do.
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Ok...what did the birth control statement have to do with all that? I don't understand...
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Ok...what did the birth control statement have to do with all that? I don't understand...
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Well, I just think it is weird the way that Christians ignore that birth control can cause spontaneous abortions. I never knew that the whole time I took them (3 years). Even though I was in the church at the time, I never heard anything about that. So, although I have a serious issue with people who teach things like no doctors or hell doctrines because it can harm children if the church and parents aren't very wise, some of the people condemning those who may harm children because of these doctrines will use birth control pills. I am not defending ultra-cons for extremist views...just playing a bit of devil's advocate, because I do not see anything wrong with believing that the natural route can be best sometimes and should be used probably more often than the mainstream culture teaches. On the flip-side, making it salvational is problematic.
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11-24-2013, 03:57 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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So then you are agreeing with me?
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Amazing, but yes!! LOL
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11-24-2013, 04:27 PM
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Re: No Doctors Doctrine?
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Well, I just think it is weird the way that Christians ignore that birth control can cause spontaneous abortions. I never knew that the whole time I took them (3 years). Even though I was in the church at the time, I never heard anything about that. So, although I have a serious issue with people who teach things like no doctors or hell doctrines because it can harm children if the church and parents aren't very wise, some of the people condemning those who may harm children because of these doctrines will use birth control pills. I am not defending ultra-cons for extremist views...just playing a bit of devil's advocate, because I do not see anything wrong with believing that the natural route can be best sometimes and should be used probably more often than the mainstream culture teaches. On the flip-side, making it salvational is problematic.
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I see. I hope children suffering and dying needlessly does not get minimized so we can discuss whether or not the pill kills unborn children.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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