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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I think that would be when God told someone not to pray.
Jeremiah 7:16 says, "Pray no more for these people, Jeremiah. Do not weep or pray for them, and don't beg me to help them, for I will not listen to you."
Jeremiah 11:14 says, "Pray no more for these people, Jeremiah. Do not weep or pray for them, for I will not listen to them when they cry out to me in distress."
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Ah yes, as well as
1Jn 5:16. These would be exceptions, though, wouldn't they?
I was thinking along the lines of the premise in the opening post, that:
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prayer is often not what is needed, and cannot help in many situation
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(emphasis mine)