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Originally Posted by votivesoul
Prayer isn't ever effective, automatically.
Praying just for the sake of doesn't accomplish anything.
Faith is key. The object of faith is key. Not working yourself into a wishful thinking deception, mind you. But true faith. Not faith in the prayer being answered, but faith in the One answering the prayer (a key difference).
Heathens think that they shall be heard because of their "much speaking".
People who regard iniquity in their hearts should not expect God to hear them.
The Baal worshipers at Mt. Carmel offered a massively INEFFECTIVE prayer.
Elijah asked God to take away his life, but nope.
Paul sought the Lord three times for the thorn in the flesh to go away, but was told no.
Paul also trusted that through Philemon's prayers, he would be delivered from prison. Didn't happen.
Esau sought repentance carefully with tears but didn't have it given to him.
Joshua wanted to weep before the Lord in repentance and the LORD told him to get up and stop it.
Samuel cried before the LORD for Saul, and God said "Too bad".
God told Jeremiah to stop praying for Judah.
These are all examples of "ineffective" prayer. Maybe a dissection of these different examples will bring out a better understanding of the elements of useless prayers (useless in the sense that they will not be answered by God in any affirmative, expected way).
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