Swaggart implosion 26th anniversary

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Originally Posted by Originalist

Number one I do not know who Terry Black is.

Terry Black was a prominent UPC minister who fell because of various sins. Just curious if his sins will be remembered year after year. Some sort of special anniversary posting as you've done with Jimmy Swaggart.

Number two, I could not care less if someone is oneness or trinity when it comes to matters of failure and restoration. You obviously do not know me well. I do not "glory" in being Oneness. Rather, i glory in the cross of Jesus Christ. Your snide remark only proves you have some sort of chip on your shoulder against Oneness folk.

Nope, that charge is a false charge about me. My issue is that you, 26 years later, made a special anniversary post once again detailing the sins of Jimmy Swaggart. Would this occur with oneness ministers who also fell? There are many of them you know. Why not have an anniversary posting detailing their past sins and questioning their relationship with God?

I too could not care less if the minister is oneness or trinity. If you have a need to post past sins, be consistent. Have anniversary postings for everyone who has sinned in the past.

The point of this thread is not Jimmy's sexual sin. Rather, the point of this thread is "what constitutes true repentance". Jim Bakker, Ted Haggard and others are humble and openly talk about how they fell and try to help others from doing the same. Plus, they take full responsibility. Have we seen this same fruit in Jimmy?

Jimmy Swaggart must have hurt you very very deeply in the past. A hurt, a disappointment you can't let go. You're demanding personal satisfaction from him, you wish for him to prove to YOU that he's truly repented, truly gone to God and performed as you would deem properly. The thing is, Jimmy Swaggart doesn't have to please you concerning his repentence or relationship with God.

Let it go. The root of bitterness you've been carrying for 26 years now doesn't have to be there. Forgive him.

Number three, I am a former employee of Jimmy Swaggart Ministries and am the only one on this forum who ever sat across from Jimmy Swaggart in his office and pleaded with him to step down to get help.

That's commendable of you. You were right, he was wrong. You were righteous, he was unrighteous. You win, he loses. Honestly, what are you seeking from him? What does he need to do to you personally so that his sins doesn't own you?

You really should know your facts before speaking presumptuously.

The fact is, after 26 years you still bring up his sin. After 26 years, he still owns you by his failure.

You need to be free of that bondage, brother. Forgive him. God has.