Swaggart implosion 26th anniversary

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by CC1

You are being absurd. I have not seen posts on here replaying the details of his sin. If you are trying to make a point you are not doing it very well.

The point is, after 26 years some folks are still obsessed with Jimmy Swaggart's sins. Twenty six years. Two and a half decades.

Why are folks still so obsessed with Jimmy Swaggart's sins?

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Bishoph, 1 John 1:9 states diffrently....(If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness). It clearly states All unrighteousness

Cross references:
1 John 1:9 : Ps. 32:5; 51:3; Prov. 28:13
1 John 1:9 : [Ps. 143:1; Rom. 3:26]
1 John 1:9 : [See ver. 7 above]; Eph. 1:7; Heb. 9:14; 1 Pet. 1:19; Rev. 5:9; 7:14; 12:11

Both of you overlook a simple yet very profound fact.....IF we repent/confess and forsake......God does forgive and cleanse.......otherwise salvation would be impossible. However, that does NOT remove the reproach. You can tell me otherwise all you want, but we all know......ANY preacher you have ever known who fell morally.....when their name is mentioned at some point (if not immediately) you will remember their failure.......That is the reproach the Bible is referring to.

Originally Posted by justlookin

This isn't about oneness or trinitarian, this is about bringing up someone's failures 26 years after it happened. One questions if the same thing would be brought up 26 years later if it had been a oneness minister who failed. I'd guess the answer would be no since that hasn't occurred so far.

Let me get this straight though. You're saying David's, Jimmy Swaggart's and Terry Blacks' sins cannot be removed? I don't think you're following scripture, brother.

Rom 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Rom 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Do you have any sins that cannot be removed? Have you enjoyed the blessedness of God as David apparently did? I have.

My good friend, you are the one who is confused.....in your opening sentence you say it's NOT about a oneness or trinitarian......and in the next sentence you say it is.

BTW EVERY sin, except blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, can be forgiven/covered.......but that does not necessarily mean it will not be reproachful to one's reputation.

[Ferd]

i just want to know why Apostolics care about this junk? he aint one of us.

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by Ferd

i just want to know why Apostolics care about this junk? he aint one of us.

Exactly. Why?

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Ferd

i just want to know why Apostolics care about this junk? he aint one of us.

As a whole I don't think WE do......the OP was a former staff member there and I think the question stems from that experience. Also I think the real question was sidestepped/got sidetracked......it was about genuine repentance/restitution.

[KWSS1976]

Swaggart just though he had some Swag left yall leave this extreamly old issue alone..

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by bishoph

As a whole I don't think WE do......the OP was a former staff member there and I think the question stems from that experience.

well the former staff member there either is one of us or needs to get baptized right.


getting right seperates us from the world.

Jimm-ay and the AOG are Of The World... and therefore to be rejected...even when they arent knocking boots with prostitutes.

[KWSS1976]

Ferd thats Harsh seeing how we baptise in Jesus name just like the oneness crowd does

[justlookin]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Both of you overlook a simple yet very profound fact.....IF we repent/confess and forsake......God does forgive and cleanse.......otherwise salvation would be impossible. However, that does NOT remove the reproach. You can tell me otherwise all you want, but we all know......ANY preacher you have ever known who fell morally.....when their name is mentioned at some point (if not immediately) you will remember their failure.......That is the reproach the Bible is referring to.

Yes, folks remember and remember and remember and remember the sins and failures of others. Of course we don't want to remember and remember and remember and remember our sins and have someone post them every anniversary, including 26 years later. Generally speaking, we seem to like remembering the sins of others while hoping our failures and shortcomings will be forgotten.

What will the 27th anniversary of Swaggart's sins bring? Just another year of remembrance by some who claim to follow Christ.

Maybe there could be a special 50th anniversary service with the playing of newsclips and the reading of selected writings concerning Swaggart's sins. By ministers who have never sinned of course.

My good friend, you are the one who is confused.....in your opening sentence you say it's NOT about a oneness or trinitarian......and in the next sentence you say it is.

You misread the post. After being erroneously accused of attacking oneness folks, I was pointing out that for ME, it wasn't about oneness or trinitarian who was celebrating the 26th anniversary of Swaggart's fall. On the other hand, it does seem to be about oneness in their celebration of a trinitarian who fell 26 years ago.

BTW EVERY sin, except blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, can be forgiven/covered.......but that does not necessarily mean it will not be reproachful to one's reputation.

So, everything's good between God and Jimmy? If so, why celebrate the 26th anniversary of his failures? Someone is attempting to make sure that the reproach to his reputation is kept alive and well, it seems. Enjoyment of bringing it up year after year after year after year. Honestly now, what spirit would be behind bringing up Jimmy's sins over and over, year after years? Would it be the same spirit that would bring up your or my sins over and over and over, year after year after year?

Why would anyone entertain that spirit?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by justlookin

Terry Black was a prominent UPC minister who fell because of various sins. Just curious if his sins will be remembered year after year. Some sort of special anniversary posting as you've done with Jimmy Swaggart.

Who knows. We have a topic on that issue which makes this one seem tame. But as for revisiting it, it may not be as easy to do without the same sort of Video investigation. Now, if you'd like to do a news worthy expose' on Terry Black and sign your name next to it, I'm sure we can post the video here several years down the road like this one