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Old 04-17-2014, 10:03 AM
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Re: Very Simple And Very Elementary!

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Does your righteousness exceed my righteousness? Yes or no?
I would not know and do not care how my righteousness compares to yours. That is the point, that is missed by performance based religions, there is no standard of holiness.

Every attempt by man to set a standard fails miserably, and only opens the door to hypocrisy, double standards, and a spirit of judgment of one another.

The parable of the beam and mote by Christ was explaining this rule. Stop trying to remove the mote in your brothers eye because you have a beam in your own eye.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

While this chapter speaks of eating foods and keeping the Sabbath, a lesson can be drawn from it on how we are to treat others.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:43 AM
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Re: Very Simple And Very Elementary!

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I would not know and do not care how my righteousness compares to yours. That is the point, that is missed by performance based religions, there is no standard of holiness.
You better find out because by your own words
you said I was a Pharisee.

Here is what Jesus said about you.

Matthew, Chapter 5, 20: For I say unto you,
That except your righteousness shall exceed the
righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall
in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


If your righteousness does not exceed my righteousness,
you are not going to get int the kingdom of heaven.
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Re: Very Simple And Very Elementary!

In other words you are not going to make it.

Not unless the Spirit of the Lord intervenes in
your life and makes you do what is right.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:14 PM
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In other words you are not going to make it.

Not unless the Spirit of the Lord intervenes in
your life and makes you do what is right.
Does the Lord make you do what is right?
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:32 PM
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Yes, my Father makes me do what is right!
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:45 PM
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Yes, my Father makes me do what is right!
Makes you. Interesting. So, you couldn't even sin if you wanted to, is that correct?
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Re: Very Simple And Very Elementary!

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I would not know and do not care how my righteousness compares to yours. That is the point, that is missed by performance based religions, there is no standard of holiness.

Every attempt by man to set a standard fails miserably, and only opens the door to hypocrisy, double standards, and a spirit of judgment of one another.

The parable of the beam and mote by Christ was explaining this rule. Stop trying to remove the mote in your brothers eye because you have a beam in your own eye.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

While this chapter speaks of eating foods and keeping the Sabbath, a lesson can be drawn from it on how we are to treat others.
Matthew, Chapter 5, 20: For I say unto you,
That except your righteousness shall exceed the
righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall
in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


If your righteousness does not exceed their righteousness,
you are not going to get into the kingdom of heaven.

True or false?
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:36 AM
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Yes, my Father makes me do what is right!
God does not make anyone do anything! That is what tells me that you have another spirit in charge of your soul!
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:26 AM
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Re: Very Simple And Very Elementary!

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Matthew, Chapter 5, 20: For I say unto you,
That except your righteousness shall exceed the
righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall
in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


If your righteousness does not exceed their righteousness,
you are not going to get into the kingdom of heaven.

True or false?
Reading this passage your way, FALSE. Christ was not speaking of outward righteousness. For he condemned that many times over. The only way we can exceed the righteousness of the Pharisee is inner righteousness. "let not your adorning be the outward, but the hidden man of the heart." I Peter 3.

So many quote that passage in an attempt to justify a salvation of works, "standards of holiness" yet reject the next words of Christ, in the next verses. "thou shalt not kill, but I say, who ever is angry with another without cause, is in danger of judgment"
The only way to be more righteous than the Pharisee is to loose the self righteousness of out ward and become righteous through the inner man.

Oh and the kingdom of God IS NOT HEAVEN !
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