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Old 04-22-2014, 04:58 PM
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Re: The Question No One Can Answer

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No matter how you slice it and dice it, the Afterlife was not a prominent or dogmatic thought in the Old Testament, and it was never used as a tactic of Salvation. Bits and pieces seem to point to a different place beyond this one, but nothing was concrete or considered doctrine regarding the destiny of the dead.

The "Evolution" came when the New Testament appeared on the scene. Christians suddenly had the answer; Heaven and Hell. If you were good enough, Heaven would become your place of mansions, streets of gold, walls of jasper, and a crystal sea. If you didn't make it, too bad, you will be tortured forever in fire and brimstone.

Since the Old Testament doesn't even come close to supporting such ideas, we can clearly see this transition from one state to the other, where Religion(s) began to realize that greater control comes from greater fear, especially fear of the unknown.

Control was clearly Rome's intention, as uniting the Christians (Jews) with the Heathens (Gentiles) would be a difficult one. With the "Fear Bag" called Hell, Religious leaders could now initiate forms of discipline or ideas that tormented their followers if they became rebellious to Catholic/Christian dogmas.

When Adam and Eve failed in the Garden, there was never one word said about anyone burning in Hell for Eternity, or, of someone going to Heaven forever. Then you travel 1000's of years later into the future, and WAHLA, that's all people worry about; the unknown.

I have spoken with so many Christians who are depressed, anxious, and full of worry. With messages at Church that reflect, "We're going to be OUTTA HERE!", or "The World is going to END!", people have lost the joy of this life, for another life they aren't even sure exists.

This is a reproach to the Creator and the Creation that is meant to bless us with provision, family, and the realities of life. Eternity has created heartless Religions, where people will be tortured by a G-d that tolerates no disobedience, in a way we will never understand. As our families develop, we see that not all people are the same and that failure is a dominant trait in humans that cannot be suppressed, yet, we still throw the weak over our cliffs of judgment and into the doom of pure horror, all because "We THINK we know, even though we DON'T".

Folks, something is severely wrong with this picture.
No matter how you slice it and dice it, repentance, water baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost was not a prominent or dogmatic thought in the Old Testament, and it was never used as a tactic of Salvation. Bits and pieces seem to point to it, but nothing was concrete or considered doctrine regarding the plan of salvation.

The "Evolution" came when this guy named Jesus appeared on the scene, and afterwards when the New Testament was written. Jesus and His "Disciples" suddenly had the answer -" you must be born again!" If you believed and were baptized, you were saved; if you didn't believe...you were damned!

Since the Old Testament doesn't even come close to supporting such ideas, we can CLEARLY see this transition from one state to the other, where Religions began to accept Jesus' teaching as truth. Besides, the Old Testament is better because it's ... older and therefore more better.

When Adam and Eve failed in the Garden, there was never one word said about a plan of salvation. Then you travel 1000's of years later into the future, and VOILA!, that's all religious leaders preach!

This must be a reproach to the Creator and the Creation that is meant to bless us with things that make us happy and forget about the wages of sin being death and all that stuff, which isn't spoken in the Old, cooler, Testament. The plan of salvation has created meanie preachers who preach that people must be born again to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. As our families develop, we see that not all people are the same, and not all people are bad; yet, we still demand the sinner be saved...all because "We BELIEVE the words of Jesus and His disciples."

Folks, something has to be wrong with Jesus' words, because I want to live MY life without any consequence! It's MY life, and no one - no even Jesus Christ - should tell me how I should live MY life.

But I'm going to tell you how you should live your life and what you should believe. Over and over and over again. The Bible is just a book that was created by the RCC and Pope Willy John Johnson XII. The TORAH doesn't even mention the plan of salvation...neither does the Christian Old Testament. What do you mean they're the same?




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