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05-01-2014, 11:31 AM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Thanks, though you didn't answer my question. If these have not been taken note of in the 6-7 years it's been regularly happening, my reporting of any posts now doesn't appear like it would change a thing.
A point I attempted to make was comparing the recent very vocal outcry against posts that bring up the UPC, to the less vocal outcry against posts that are anti-Bible/faith/Christianity/God.
That's fine. I made the mistake of picking the wrong discussion in which to participate, where the protests flooded in about naming the UPC.
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05-01-2014, 11:37 AM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Thanks, though you didn't answer my question. If these have not been taken note of in the 6-7 years it's been regularly happening, my reporting of any posts now doesn't appear like it would change a thing.
A point I attempted to make was comparing the recent very vocal outcry against posts that bring up the UPC, to the less vocal outcry against posts that are anti-Bible/faith/Christianity/God.
That's fine. I made the mistake of picking the wrong discussion in which to participate, where the protests flooded in about naming the UPC.
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You are completely right about this. I think all subjects should be allowed discussion without censorship (as long as they are respectful) but one has to wonder about the disparity.
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05-01-2014, 04:29 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Thanks, though you didn't answer my question. If these have not been taken note of in the 6-7 years it's been regularly happening, my reporting of any posts now doesn't appear like it would change a thing.
A point I attempted to make was comparing the recent very vocal outcry against posts that bring up the UPC, to the less vocal outcry against posts that are anti-Bible/faith/Christianity/God.
That's fine. I made the mistake of picking the wrong discussion in which to participate, where the protests flooded in about naming the UPC.
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They don't get dealt with because nobody reports them or not enough are reporting them.
That's my answer.
It's also not a comparison either because you are comparing views on things that are not personalized compared to talking about the UPC and those that believe or are still IN the UPC.
We don't read every post...you guys have to report this stuff
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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05-01-2014, 04:33 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Originally Posted by ILG
You are completely right about this. I think all subjects should be allowed discussion without censorship (as long as they are respectful) but one has to wonder about the disparity.
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Can we talk about you? You seem to have a problem with the subject I am talking about with YOU always harping on the UPC..
BTW I did not censor anyone. Nobody was censored. If that was the case your posts would have been removed or you would have been banned.
What happened is some of us who are the few remaining UPCers or are not UPC haters are just TIRED of it ALL the time. You have no problem with doing it and believe it should be done because it does not have any affect on you personally. Nobody is constantly downing your church org or you on a forum that was supposed to be about APOSTOLIC FRIENDS..does anyone see the irony?
How many UPCers feel the "friendship"? How many feel it's Apostolic?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-01-2014, 04:35 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Originally Posted by ILG
I have learned that it is never okay to criticize the UPC (in my experience).
It was not okay when I was newly in the church because I was new and didn't "understand".
It was not okay when my husband was the assistant pastor and I was worship leader because we were just assisting.
It was not okay when we were in Home Missions because we were new pastors.
It was not okay when we started pastoring an established work because "they" said so.
It was not okay when we found embezzling going on because we were supposed to let the district superintendent handle it.
It was not okay when the district superintendent did not handle it but pushed it up under the rug.
It was not okay when we were leaving.
It was not okay after we left because we were "bitter" and "backslid".
It is not okay now because we no longer attend.
See, it just isn't okay.
Which means, according to the UPC, it is not and never was okay for me to have an opinion, a voice, a question, a comment or ANYTHING negative.
But it was okay when we assisted for free for 9 years. It was okay when we built a church and financed it for 5 years. It was okay when we pastored practically for free for another 5 years.
See, giving and praising and all that is okay.
But don't you ever, ever criticize, even if people are embezzling and the district superintendent is covering it up. Because that would be WRONG!
And there you have it. 
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And there you have it.
Here's what I find odd...this is supposed to be a forum, a place to exchange ideas, a place to share.
Yet the admins have absolutely killed this place. It's a shell of its former self.
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05-01-2014, 04:37 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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And on and on and on and on.
You really don't understand. It's not that you had an opinion or criticism, it's that you tell us over and over and over and over and over and over...and not just you but others and if you REALLY Did understand Mich's point, you'd be more sympathetic than defensive over it.
Over and over and over and over, month after month, year after year...I set my watch by it
It's OLD
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This post is horribly offensive, as are most you type. You seem to relish hate.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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05-01-2014, 04:40 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Can we talk about you? You seem to have a problem with the subject I am talking about with YOU always harping on the UPC..
BTW I did not censor anyone. Nobody was censored. If that was the case your posts would have been removed or you would have been banned.
What happened is some of us who are the few remaining UPCers or are not UPC haters are just TIRED of it ALL the time. You have no problem with doing it and believe it should be done because it does not have any affect on you personally. Nobody is constantly downing your church org or you on a forum that was supposed to be about APOSTOLIC FRIENDS..does anyone see the irony?
How many UPCers feel the "friendship"? How many feel it's Apostolic?
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Is there anything or anyone you aren't tired of? You are constantly grumpy.
You have no business being an admin. You manipulate every conversation. You're too involved.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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05-01-2014, 04:42 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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And there you have it.
Here's what I find odd...this is supposed to be a forum, a place to exchange ideas, a place to share.
Yet the admins have absolutely killed this place. It's a shell of its former self.
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It is a shell of it's former self. I am not sure why that is. I think some (not all) of the administration behaves reprehensibly and I wish the rest of the admin would deal with that.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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05-01-2014, 04:45 PM
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
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Originally Posted by ILG
It is a shell of it's former self. I am not sure why that is. I think some (not all) of the administration behaves reprehensibly and I wish the rest of the admin would deal with that.
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Praxeas has little man syndrome. He thinks the person who screams the loudest, and acts the meanest, wins.
Meanwhile, other than the 43 admins there are about 4 consistently active posters left.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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05-01-2014, 04:47 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: Did You Scorn Leaving the UPC?
I was to busy cleaning eggs off my car and house...
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