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05-23-2014, 09:15 AM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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It's said Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's also said we should worship God and we should not worship man.
So since Jesus is fully man we shouldn't worship him. But since he is fully God we should. I'm a little confused on if we should worship Jesus or not?
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Jews have that problem and worse.
Jesus was worshipped only by those
who knew him, as their God.
Pre-incarnation:
Isa.43
[15] I (JESUS) am the LORD,
your Holy One,
the creator of Israel, your King.
Pss.45
[10] Hearken,
O daughter (of Zion= the Apostles first), and consider,
and incline your ear
Also forget your own people, and your father's house.
[11] So your king (Isa.43:15, JESUS),
shall greatly desire your beauty
and worship him (JESUS),
because he is your Lord (the God of Israel).
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Isa.42
[9] Behold, the former things have come to pass,
and I declare new things....
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05-23-2014, 11:35 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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Doesn't being a man imply that a person is not god? You can say he's a man in a different way than he is god. I'm fine with that. But by saying he's a man that implies he has a god other than himself, that in one way he is not god, even if according to you he is god in another way.
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Being A man does.
Being a God who adds to Himself Human nature does not. You are making a category fallacy in comparing God to "a man".
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Originally Posted by jfrog
Jesus is not a man?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Jesus is the Divine Person (Yhwh) with Human qualities added. He is man, not a man. He is both God and Man. Deity and Human
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You already acknowledged above that being a man implies that the person Jesus is not God. You maintain that he is also God and I'm fine with that. But according to the above you believe that he is also not God (because you believe Jesus is a man and you believe that being a man implies a person is not God) Those were your own words Prax.
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05-24-2014, 07:13 AM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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Originally Posted by jfrog
It's said Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's also said we should worship God and we should not worship man.
So since Jesus is fully man we shouldn't worship him. But since he is fully God we should. I'm a little confused on if we should worship Jesus or not?
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just a note here, on the fly--what is usually translated 'worship' to us is the same word for 'follow,' in Hebrew anyway. so, this might alter ones answer here. how does one worship without following? we try it all the time, imo, evincing the verses "I'm not interested in your incense or your sacrifices" paraphrased.
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05-24-2014, 12:33 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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Originally Posted by jfrog
It's said Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's also said we should worship God and we should not worship man.
So since Jesus is fully man we shouldn't worship him. But since he is fully God we should. I'm a little confused on if we should worship Jesus or not?
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To WORSHIP Jesus is not to mean He is God .Rather is homage and respect paid to him for being Lord our Lord over us.
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05-24-2014, 12:54 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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To WORSHIP Jesus is not to mean He is God .Rather is homage and respect paid to him for being Lord our Lord over us.
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But he asked you whether or not we should worship Jesus since we are told to not worship man.
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05-24-2014, 03:10 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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But he asked you whether or not we should worship Jesus since we are told to not worship man.
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What are your thoughts Blume? I know you are justified in worshipping him because he is God, but am I not just as justified in not worshipping him because he is also man, ie not God?
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
see that it is ones definition of 'worship' here that is pertinent, and not how many angels can dance on the head of a pin lol.
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05-24-2014, 05:56 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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What are your thoughts Blume? I know you are justified in worshipping him because he is God, but am I not just as justified in not worshipping him because he is also man, ie not God?
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God wants his Son worshiped with the same worship he gets.
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05-24-2014, 08:17 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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God wants his Son worshiped with the same worship he gets.
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Interesting approach
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05-24-2014, 09:34 PM
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Re: Should we worship Jesus?
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What are your thoughts Blume? I know you are justified in worshipping him because he is God, but am I not just as justified in not worshipping him because he is also man, ie not God?
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I actually think Jesus ensured we not worship Him due to his humanity, which implies we worship only His deity.
Matthew 19:17 LITV And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One, God! But if you desire to enter into life, keep the commandments.
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