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Originally Posted by mfblume
No, I am saying that the bible is speaking highly and positively about what we must do to be saved, and you are making it out that it is a labour wortghy of misery because of the preachers who unwisely affected you to be hurt by those thoughts of what we must do to be saved. You are too subjective and not being objective enough to think that perhaps your reactions just may not validate your viewpoint.
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I disagree. I was looking back in hindsight and I could clearly see that it had negatively affected me, even though I was looking at it from a positive standpoint for many, many years....the same viewpoint you have now. To say it differently, I NEVER saw it negatively until I realized that it had had a horrible affect on me, one I refused to see because I was afraid of hell, being lost and possibly just being falsely accused of what you are basically saying right now....that I am making it out to be a "labor of misery". My point is that I don't believe it is salvational. I believe salvation is by grace through faith, period and putting qualifiers on it such as that the preacher has to say something special over you in order to be saved, seems pretty ridiculous to me now. I think it is actually a scary thing to think and do, to make salvation something that happens apart from your own heart and walk with God.