Question?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

How many of y'all attend an Apostolic church? By that I mean they teach Jesus is the ONE person of the Godhead and baptize in Jesus Name and believe the Holy Ghost baptism with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues? Just wondering?

Believe it or not, I do.

[Amanah]

I think this thread would have been better with a poll accompanying it . . .

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I think this thread would have been better with a poll accompanying it . . .

I am techno challenged I bearly can post.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

God killed Uzzah for what may seem like a technicality. And it was someone else's FAULT!

How much of a slippery slope does anyone really want to stand on when it comes to their salvation? Just so they can nitpick away at what they perceive to be a technicality?

Technically an R rated movie with graphic sex scenes is not pornography since it's not really happening in the truest sense.

A technicality? You bet, if you want to split hairs like that. Doesn't make the first morally acceptable before God to watch, however.

Originally Posted by jfrog

Ummmm, trying to make a point out of God killing a man for something someone else done isn't a good starting place for a point...

God said don't touch the ark. Nobody forced this man to touch it...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Ah yes, the fickle God!

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Moses missed the Promised Land because of a fickle God. A

That fickle, fickle God!

He isn't frickle. God changes not

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ILG

I disagree. I was looking back in hindsight and I could clearly see that it had negatively affected me, even though I was looking at it from a positive standpoint for many, many years....the same viewpoint you have now. To say it differently, I NEVER saw it negatively until I realized that it had had a horrible affect on me, one I refused to see because I was afraid of hell, being lost and possibly just being falsely accused of what you are basically saying right now....that I am making it out to be a "labor of misery". My point is that I don't believe it is salvational. I believe salvation is by grace through faith, period and putting qualifiers on it such as that the preacher has to say something special over you in order to be saved, seems pretty ridiculous to me now. I think it is actually a scary thing to think and do, to make salvation something that happens apart from your own heart and walk with God.

Isn't "faith" a qualifier? And what is faith?

to be clear the bible says we have to have faith IN Jesus.

Nobody can say "I'll have faith in myself and make it to heaven. We don't have to do it God's way".

Abraham had faith and His faith led him to obey what God said. Not obeying what God said is the antithesis of faith

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Isn't "faith" a qualifier? And what is faith?

to be clear the bible says we have to have faith IN Jesus.

Nobody can say "I'll have faith in myself and make it to heaven. We don't have to do it God's way".

Abraham had faith and His faith led him to obey what God said. Not obeying what God said is the antithesis of faith

Abraham's faith counted unto him as righteousness.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by ILG

And that is the whole point. I lived in fear after I was told I wasn't saved after I indeed had been saved because I believed God was terribly fickle. I don't believe that anymore. I am happy I have assurance and don't live in fear. A fickle God produces fear. Some will focus on the parts of the Bible that produce fear in people and some will focus on the parts that produce assurance and compassion. Having lived the first way for many years, I found it to be a bad thing and would rather focus on the goodness of God.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Isn't "faith" a qualifier? And what is faith?

to be clear the bible says we have to have faith IN Jesus.

Nobody can say "I'll have faith in myself and make it to heaven. We don't have to do it God's way".

Abraham had faith and His faith led him to obey what God said. Not obeying what God said is the antithesis of faith

Yes, faith is the only qualifier. But the funny thing is that people always want your faith to "obey" THEIR rules. Funny thing, that.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Abraham's faith counted unto him as righteousness.

There you go! Salvation isn't a carrot on a stick where you have to do more and more to please God and if you don't he is going to cast you into hell for eternity.