All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Sean;1324622][COLOR="Red"]The Holy Ghost falls on people to lead them to water baptism and get their sins remitted. QUOTE]

Love ya man, but that is simply downplaying the significance of Spirit baptism.

God gives people his spirit for the following reasons........


New birth (John 3:5)

The rest I'll just repeat my previous comments....

Furthermore, God credits those who have the Spirit as having met all the righteous requirements of the Law through Christ's death. ...

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Those Trinitarians who have the Holy Ghost are not in the flesh, and belong to Christ in spite of their imperfect doctrine of God and in spite of the fact that the man who baptized them messed it up......

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Again, in romans 8 Paul is not contrasting "weak Christians" who are "in the flesh" with those stronger Christians who are "walking in the Spirit". He is contrasting to dominions, the flesh and the Spirit. he makes it clear that one who has the Spirit dwelling in them is NOT IN THE FLESH. Sean, you contradict Paul by saying that those Christians with the Holy Ghost who had an imperfect baptism are still in their sins. Here Paul clearly contradicts any such notion.

Furthermore, those same Holy Ghost filled Trinitarians have life because of the imputed righteousness of Christ that is in them.....

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Is Christ in them or not, Sean?

Continuing, those Holy Ghost filled Trinitarians will one day have their mortal bodies quickened just like those Holy Ghost filled Oneness folk...

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (except those of you who had an imperfect baptism. You're still in your sins and going to Hell)

Finally, those very imperfect Holy Ghost filled Trinitarians who though they have imperfect doctrine, are spirit led and Spirit adopted children of God, heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ......

4 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together

The Apostle Peter declared in Acts 5 this concerning Holy Ghost baptism....

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

When God gives someone the Holy Ghost, he is declaring that that person has "obeyed" the gospel according to Peter. What gospel? The gospel Peter mentioned in verses 29-31....

29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

Acts 5:32 blows any idea out of the water that the Holy Ghost falls on people just to lead them to be rebaptized so they won't still be in their sins.

Holy Ghost filled Trinitarians believe that God raised Jesus, exalted him, and he alone can forgive sins. When they submit to that message, God fills them with his Spirit just like us.

Is there doctrine perfect? No. Should the preacher have invoked the name of Jesus when he baptized them? Yes. Should we try to lead them into more truth? Yes. But we should admonish them as BROTHERS, for all the reasons I mentioned in this post.

These points are irrefutable despite the efforts of some to twist the clear wording and context of Romans 7 and 8. It would be better to claim these people really don't have the Holy Ghost than to come up with a ridiculous soteriology that makes Oneness Pentecostals look like a bunch of buffoons.