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07-31-2014, 07:18 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Why can't we allow the Spirit to speak to individuals on the matter?
The Spirit might lead a woman to conform more to cultural norms if she is serving in politics, entertainment, or public life in some fashion. However, the Spirit might lead a woman to maintain a standard against makeup if she works as a cashier at the grocery store.
The Holy Spirit can lead a guide one in areas that are specific for them as long as those areas are not directly against the very nature of God.
The Kingdom of God isn't a form of spiritual communism.
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You remind me of people like Anna Wintour who are appalled that we don't bow down to their cultural norms that they bring to the fashion industry.
You aren't really allowing the Spirit to lead a woman when you term serving in politics, entertainment or public life as the "norm" for makeup, but a cashier doesn't have to live up to these expectations. You've already put these women into "your" view and cultural box.
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Why can't we allow the Spirit to speak to individuals on the matter?
The Spirit might lead a woman to conform more to cultural norms if she is serving in politics, entertainment, or public life in some fashion. However, the Spirit might lead a woman to maintain a standard against makeup if she works as a cashier at the grocery store.
The Holy Spirit can lead a guide one in areas that are specific for them as long as those areas are not directly against the very nature of God.
The Kingdom of God isn't a form of spiritual communism.
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I just have a hard time believing the the Holy Spirit gives a flip about a woman wearing makeup whatever her vocation might be. I certainly don't see it in the bible.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-31-2014, 08:08 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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We have a winner! 
Now go and have a nice plate of bacon.  |
Hope you raised and butchered that bacon yourself!
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07-31-2014, 08:18 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Hope you raised and butchered that bacon yourself!
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Emma would be pleased to know that we get our bacon from a Mennonite and and two Amish farmers. We have our own chickens for the eggs.
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07-31-2014, 08:39 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Emma would be pleased to know that we get our bacon from a Mennonite and and two Amish farmers. We have our own chickens for the eggs.
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Do the neighbors in the other apartments complain about the chickens? 
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07-31-2014, 08:56 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Emma would be pleased to know that we get our bacon from a Mennonite and and two Amish farmers. We have our own chickens for the eggs.
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07-31-2014, 09:08 AM
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On the road less traveled
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Emma would be pleased to know that we get our bacon from a Mennonite and and two Amish farmers. We have our own chickens for the eggs.
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 We buy our beef and chicken right now from a supplier called Zaycon Foods. http://www.zayconfoods.com The meat comes directly from the farm, to you, never frozen. You meet the truck at a decided location in your community, and they hand you a box of fresh, never frozen organic meat that comes in 10-pound bags, which I then take home and package according to our family's use. It is awesome. I highly recommend this company to anyone who is wanting to get high quality, fresh organic meat at reasonable prices.
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07-31-2014, 09:10 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
We eat venison, killed by my husband, butchered by us.
We are thinking about trying this organic place for our poultry and they also do bison meat.
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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07-31-2014, 09:10 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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Originally Posted by CC1
I just have a hard time believing the the Holy Spirit gives a flip about a woman wearing makeup whatever her vocation might be. I certainly don't see it in the bible.
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I can see where the Holy Spirit may convict someone about makeup. I believe the Holy Spirit could convict us of just about anything we do in our daily lives (even eating bacon  )
However, to make a blanket statement that makeup is wrong and sinful... is wrong, in my opinion. Let the Holy Spirit do the convicting, instead of issuing a mandated rule that just begs to be broken, which is human nature to do so.
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07-31-2014, 09:11 AM
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Re: If you have to wear make-up to be accepted....
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We buy our beef and chicken right now from a supplier called Zaycon Foods. http://www.zayconfoods.com The meat comes directly from the farm, to you, never frozen. You meet the truck at a decided location in your community, and they hand you a box of fresh, never frozen organic meat that comes in 10-pound bags, which I then take home and package according to our family's use. It is awesome. I highly recommend this company to anyone who is wanting to get high quality, fresh organic meat at reasonable prices. |
Is there an advantage to "never frozen"?
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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