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Old 09-03-2014, 08:39 AM
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Do you have to believe that everything in the Bible is true, to be saved?
Is salvation established in a soul by their belief that everything in the Bible is true?

No because it is very possible for a person to be saved and not KNOW everything that is in the Bible.
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:45 AM
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Is salvation established in a soul by their belief that everything in the Bible is true?

No because it is very possible for a person to be saved and not KNOW everything that is in the Bible.
Good point. But let me rephrase the question:

Is it possible to be saved, even if you believe there are some untrue things in the Bible?
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Good point. But let me rephrase the question:

Is it possible to be saved, even if you believe there are some untrue things in the Bible?
Well, did Jesus actually tell the disciples to baptize in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost or in the Name of Jesus or in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, or in my Name, or in my name, or.... So many options!
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Well, did Jesus actually tell the disciples to baptize in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost or in the Name of Jesus or in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, or in my Name, or in my name, or.... So many options!
And that's a whole 'nother topic.
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I don't believe one has to believe or understand everything in the Bible to be saved. Believe in Jesus. His life, sacrificial death, and resurrection. Show this by obeying Acts 2:38. Then love God with all that you are. Finally demonstrate that love by loving others as yourself, and you're light years ahead of all Christian religion.
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.... Do you have to believe that everything in the Bible is true, to be saved?

It's complex because in contains the implicit question: What is the Bible? And another one: What does it mean to be saved? Also: What do we mean by "true"? How literally do we have to take each scripture? E.g., does one need to be a Young-Earth Creationist?

OK, discuss.
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Well, did Jesus actually tell the disciples to baptize in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost or in the Name of Jesus or in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, or in my Name, or in my name, or.... So many options!
Jesus never told his disciples to baptize in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, that is an interpolation, it was added by the early Catholic church.
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Re: A complex question....

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.... Do you have to believe that everything in the Bible is true, to be saved?

It's complex because in contains the implicit question: What is the Bible? And another one: What does it mean to be saved? Also: What do we mean by "true"? How literally do we have to take each scripture? E.g., does one need to be a Young-Earth Creationist?

OK, discuss.
No. Believing in the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy or Biblical infallibility is not a prerequisite for salvation. Salvation is accomplished by grace through faith.

Similar questions would be "Do all of my beliefs have to be correct in order to be saved?" and "How certain must I be in the validity of my beliefs in order to be saved?" Recently I read a book on this subject called Benefit of the Doubt: Breaking the Idol of Certainty by Greg Boyd. I thought it was certainly worth the read.
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