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Originally Posted by Esaias
Well.. do they? And by tarrying meeting I mean a prayer meeting where folks seek God for the Holy Ghost. Not so much waiting for God to move according to an unknown timetable, but about seeking God in prayer and allowing Him to work out whatever we need worked out, ie getting US into a place where God can fill us.
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I don't understand this.
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Seems the general consensus in the church world is that "tarrying" in that sense is unnecessary and unbiblical.
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it's not biblical
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But practically ALL the early Pentecostals wholeheartedly believed in it. Seems to me that as tarrying has been abandoned and replaced with a charismatic "just name it and claim it" type approach, we have become less and less genuinely Pentecostal.
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Somewhat of a false dichotomy, but I'll go along. I have seen some of the name and claim stuff in OP, but nothing as extreme as that in the WOF movement. An instant society requires instant results.
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Many Pentecostal churches seem Pentecostal in name only. Many Pentecostals are backslid, lukewarm, worldly, uncharitable, and barely indiscernible in their attitude from the unabashedly lost.
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I couldn't agree more. My theory is that this is the result of legalism. When all you need to do is please the pastor the bible really isn't necessary.
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Could abandoning the "importunate seeking after God" in favor of hurrying up to speak in tongues be responsible for flooding the world with pseudo-pentecostal "saints" and carnal imitation "pentecostal-in-name-only" churches? What do you think?
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Yes. This implies that much of today's tongues are not real. That will get no disagreement from me. The rush to get people to speak in tongues is a result of the initial evidence doctrine.