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Originally Posted by mfblume

Notice the terminology. It is HEAVEN, not the sky. We cannot see into heaven. It was A "SIGN" of Jesus in Heaven. If it was the Son of man Himself there would be no mention of a SIGN for HIM.

If we read Daniel 7, we read of the son of man IN CLOUDS IN HEAVEN, but He went to the throne, not the earth. And the SIGN OF THAT -- the sign of Him having gone to the throne -- were events that occurred on earth. the SIGN the disciples asked about in verse 3. And that SIGN of what they asked about is the same SIGN of the temple destruction in Mark 13:4 and Luke 21:7. Note reference to THESE THINGS in those verses and read before them to see what THESE THINGS refer to. they sought a sign of Jesus coming in destruction!

I don't quite follow how you believe the sign of the son of man in heaven was the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem - that's a far stretch!

Originally Posted by mfblume

EARTH is LAND in Greek. TRIBES OF THE LAND. Isreal's tribes. Do you not think they mourned when the capital city and temple were razed to the ground?

Trying to assign the tribes of Israel to that portion of scripture is a stretch as well!

Originally Posted by mfblume

He came TO THE THRONE as Daniel 7 attests. THE SIGN OF THAT presence in clouds in heaven was the things he said would occur in Jerusalem.

You have to understand what the gathering means to know that, and that is understood by what we read using the same terms in Matt 23:37. What did he mean there? Also, compare Matt 23:36, and consider who he meant, with Matt 24:34.

Matthew 24:34 GNB Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.

Basically, what you've done here is turned the entire passage of Matt 24 into a parable, symbolic spiritual passage, without acknowledging that there is a literal interpretation as well. I do believe part of the passage is referring to the a.d. 70 Jewish destruction, however.... I don't believe that was all that Jesus was referencing in that chapter.... You are grasping at straws and extra meanings of words to try and insert your view there.

Sean did a great job of explaining in another thread that this chapter involves Jesus answering three questions the disciples had asked. Jesus answered all three of those questions in the passage of Matt. 24:3 (1. When shall these things be? 2. What shall be the sign of thy coming? 3. What shall be the end of the world?) in that chapter, which we know cannot only hold the answer for the ad 70 destruction of the temple, because here we are 2000 years later, and the world has not ended.