Apostolics and Secular Music

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I can condemn anything that wants to ACT like the world and not the church. come out from the world and leave the rock music while your add it!!!!!

You may know that we have threads like this a lot. I always ask people who say things like you this.

Please put up several videos of what you think is appropriate for Christian listening.

Most of them never do.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

mike if you wouldn't listen to a false prophet why should you listen to a false disciple?

Very good for a discussion. Im not sure it could or even should be contained within a thread about music. I may start a thread about this.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

You may know that we have threads like this a lot. I always ask people who say things like you this.

Please put up several videos of what you think is appropriate for Christian listening.

Most of them never do.

I really don't know how to post youtube videos with a link, sorry.

[houston]

Copy and paste a link

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Are you kidding? You must not have even listened to it. How about the plain mention of Jesus all the way through? The whole song is about Jesus.

IMO one of the most edifying songs of all time.!

I listened to a clip and found the words online. I neither heard nor read one direct unequivocal mention of Jesus or "son of God".

[Esaias]

Christians are obviously divided about music, especially music used in services. What's interesting to me is this was never that much of an issue in christendom until the 80s and 90s with rock, metal, and rap/hiphop being introduced into worship services.

There have been issues prior (psalms vs uninspired hymns, adaptation of folk melodies for hymn tunes, use of instruments vs a capella, unison vs polyphony, etc) but the ongoing big deal is different. Hollywood (aka pop media industry) has been brought in and honestly it looks to me like a not-so-slow path of social change, changing the church by changing its worship ... jmo.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I listened to a clip and found the words online. I neither heard nor read one direct unequivocal mention of Jesus or "son of God".

I dont know what "clip" you listened to. I just played the video I posted in this thread. Resurrected Son is twice. The name Jesus TWELVE times. He is called Holy and Almighty God I never counted them.

If you dont want to like it thats cool. In my way of thinking I cant think of a song I ever heard more edifying and glorifying to Christ.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Most (if not all) Christian Rock groups could not compete in the secular world so they turn their attention to "Christians" who think its okay.

Do you have any PROOF of that statement? Do you personally know every believer in Jesus Christ who has played Christian Rock music?

Or are you repeating something you heard someone else say? I mean that is quite a sweeping statement isnt it? So surely you must have some proof?

And ok you cant post any video's. So just give me two or three songs to examine. Just names and singers or even just a genre. Hymnals? What should we listen to? If you think someone is deceived you should be able to offer them a better way right?

[obriencp]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

If one has to incorporate "Christian Rock" to draw people to Christ then they are as lost as two boys kissing. How do you distinguish the words from the music?

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Most (if not all) Christian Rock groups could not compete in the secular world so they turn their attention to "Christians" who think its okay.

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

Amen, Amen and again I say Amen Bro. Eastman

And it's this attitude that divides and conquers the body of christ. Do you realize how much music has changed over the last 2000 years? Styles change and evolve. There were prob people with your same attitude towards baroque music when it was new. When slave type call and repeat songs began to influence gospel i'm sure there were "die-hards" that wanted no part of that either. Maybe some of y'all should find a church that doesn't have any music at all. Strick acapella with no music and be sure its the type of music that the Apostles would have listened to. No western scales or chords allowed. No drums, no piano, no mics... I mean seriously, you have no idea how foolish you sound. What you call "ok" wasn't "ok" to those who came before you.

And to keep assuming all that favor a particular style of music are lost and that Christian "rockers" couldn't cut it in the real world? Some of you are flat out wrong in your outlook and spirit.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Do you have any PROOF of that statement? Do you personally know every believer in Jesus Christ who has played Christian Rock music?

Or are you repeating something you heard someone else say? I mean that is quite a sweeping statement isnt it? So surely you must have some proof?

And ok you cant post any video's. So just give me two or three songs to examine. Just names and singers or even just a genre. Hymnals? What should we listen to? If you think someone is deceived you should be able to offer them a better way right?

Okay, If you can show me where lots of people were baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost after a "Christian Rock" concert then I will quit what I believe about Christian Rock.