Apostolics and Secular Music

[Michael The Disciple]

Would these Messianic singers be welcome in an Apostolic Church? Or would this be Charismatic?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

http://rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psyc...km/satanic.htm

Ok so according to him THIS is satanic. Shall we take a peek and see if he could be right?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok so according to him THIS is satanic. Shall we take a peek and see if he could be right?

OMG...He's right!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by n david

Name one Christian rock song which does what you claim.

if you would have read the links I gave you, I wouldn't have to give examples.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Pendragon

It won't happen, because subconsciously he knows he probably isn't even living up to his own standards. This troll is your typical ultra-conservative who sets impossible standards rooted in obscure, handed-down traditions and erroneous interpretation of scripture. To live this way you must blind yourself to your own failings. I grew up in a church full of this kind of thing. They spout a lot of scripture but 'rightly dividing the Word' and 'searching the scriptures daily to see if these things are so' is not as important as following a man who they assume is rightly dividing the Word. It's a culture of preacher-worship and there is no love of Truth.

you have 115 posts and you call me a troll???????

[BrotherEastman]

To all who listen to Christian Rock.........I hope the Lord blesses you continually as I do not know your hearts nor did I pretend to. With all the research I have done on the matter of CR, I personally am not comfortable with it and it grieves MY spirit. I hope that you are continually blessed as you listen to whatever music you feel comfortable with. I love you all.....God bless. Lets just agree to disagree.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok so according to him THIS is satanic. Shall we take a peek and see if he could be right?

Where is Jesus or God ever mentioned even once??????? I listened to the whole thing and honestly there was nothing uplifting about God Himself.

[n david]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

To all who listen to Christian Rock.........I hope the Lord blesses you continually as I do not know your hearts nor did I pretend to. With all the research I have done on the matter of CR, I personally am not comfortable with it and it grieves MY spirit. I hope that you are continually blessed as you listen to whatever music you feel comfortable with. I love you all.....God bless. Lets just agree to disagree.

So you admit it's a personal conviction, not a Biblical doctrine. I can respect that.

I have a personal conviction against hillbilly, metal and rap music.

[n david]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

if you would have read the links I gave you, I wouldn't have to give examples.

I see one link from you, which is to a blog complaining about Amy Grant's song Baby Baby. Do you know when Baby Baby was released? 1991.

You should at least find something a bit more up to date.

[obriencp]

Originally Posted by n david

Bottom line, as long as it's to bring glory to God, there is nothing wrong with various genres of Christian music.

What we're really discussing are personal preferences, not Biblical mandates. The music my parents listened to in church was likely viewed as rebellious to their parents; and likewise my Christian music was indeed viewed as rebellious to them. And I'm sure the music my daughter listens to, when she gets older, will be something I'll probably hate.

Give me Amazing Grace with a pipe organ, or the same song with an electric guitar and the lyrics are still the same. Drop a beat and put a spin on it with some rhymes and it's still an incredible song.

The author of the article I posted above this hit the nail on the head...this argument is like those who claim the King James version of the Bible is the only true version everyone should read.

Yes! Thank you N David those were similar to the points i was trying to make with my earlier replies below.

Originally Posted by obriencp

Do you care to address how other forms of music have evolved and how there was, undoubtedly, resistance from the religious cons of the time? I know it would be difficult to do discuss this as there probably isn't a historical account. However, this doesn't detract from my argument that there is change and not all change is bad. If you listen to classical music, some is sacred some is secular, but it all sounds like classical music. If that was the popular music of the time, what separated it? The subject matter or lyrics made the music fall into one category or the other. The same is true today. There are similar instruments, beats, chord progressions, electronic aids, etc in both sacred and secular music. The subject and lyrics is what separates them into the two categories. The music we hold as pure and holy today, has evolved from things viewed as worldly and "evil" in times past.



I did peruse this page and it's very informational. People are people and even saved folks make mistakes. I doubt most will take the time to research all the artists they like and see where they stand doctrinally and examine every facet of their life for sin. Do we stop singing "happy birthday" because the person who wrote it might have been a sinner?

If you want to reject some genres of music because of personal conviction, I understand. But if you're going to make blanket statements about christian rock and it helping young people to be lost, then maybe you should stop listening to anything written/performed by people that aren't OPs or have ever sinned. This will eliminate everything ever performed unless you have original transcripts from the heavenly songs John heard during his revelations.

Originally Posted by obriencp

BTW, did you even read my response? If you did, you'd realize that your bias against christian rock is not a new bias, but a bias that has come every time there has been a stylistic shift in secular and sacred music.