Apostolics and Secular Music - Page 17

BrotherEastman · #**161** 10-21-2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

So you admit it's a personal conviction, not a Biblical doctrine. I can respect that.

I have a personal conviction against hillbilly, metal and rap music.

personal conviction, yes. Sin, maybe.

Pendragon · #**162** 10-21-2014, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

you have 115 posts and you call me a troll???????

Let me see...one-liner replies to well-presented arguments; copy/pasting material from other sites rather than providing your own arguments; complete lack of critical thinking and logic in the arguments you do present, indicating you didn't put much thought into them...yeah I'd say you fit the definition. You're just a really OLD troll. It looks like you're just here to keep the flames fueled, not add anything of value to either yourself or others. Again, this is also a hallmark of the ultra-cons I used to know. They are so certain they are right that they don't bother to actually THINK about what they are saying.

And I fit the definition of 'troll' how...? Simply because I don't blast off as many one-liners as you, thus reducing my overall number of posts? I prefer to comment only on things I know and/or care about, with substantive posts. I also don't have a lot of time to spend on forums.

n david · #**163** 10-21-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

personal conviction, yes. Sin, maybe.

Sin? Prove it.

Do you also believe the KJV is the only true version of the Bible?

BrotherEastman · #**164** 10-21-2014, 09:25 AM

since April 2011 you now have 116 posts. I don't see you offering anything substantive to this thread as of yet, nor have I seen anything from you that would indicate critical thinking on your part. You haven't addressed any of my posts or addressed any of the links I have provided. AND I'M THE TROLL??????? If you aren't too busy why don't you enlighten me on this subject. I dare say that you haven't given the subject much thought or PRAYER. None of the arguments from your supposed view have been well presented as you have said. All I see is Christian Rock as some sort of SUBSTITUTE to the real thing. Even in Michael's last link to a song doesn't even mention God or Jesus in the lyrics (most of them don't). So why should I sit back and endorse CR??????? You tell me since you have all the answers.

BrotherEastman · #**165** 10-21-2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

Sin? Prove it.

Do you also believe the KJV is the only true version of the Bible?

I said maybe. And yes, I read other versions of the bible. Does that make you feel better????????

BrotherEastman · #**166** 10-21-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

Sin? Prove it.

Do you also believe the KJV is the only true version of the Bible?

Can you prove that CR is NOT sin?????? Anything that does not glorify God could be sinful.

Pendragon · #**167** 10-21-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

since April 2011 you now have 116 posts. I don't see you offering anything substantive to this thread as of yet, nor have I seen anything from you that would indicate critical thinking on your part.

See pages 6 and 8 of this thread for my posts on the topic.

Also, you can click on my user profile and select Statistics and Find All Posts or Threads to view previous substantive posts about other topics.

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I dare say that you haven't given the subject much thought or PRAYER.

Really? This is indeed a daring thing to say - some might say brash - since you have no way of knowing if I have prayed about it. As to my thoughts, they can be found on pages 6 and 8.

obriencp · #**168** 10-21-2014, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Can you prove that CR is NOT sin?????? Anything that does not glorify God could be sinful.

this just keeps getting better. If CR is a sin to you, it's because of YOUR convictions. There is no scripture to back this up.

There are things we do everyday that don't glorify God. Are eating, sleeping, using the restroom, driving to work, brushing your teeth sinful now?

BrotherEastman · #**169** 10-21-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by obriencp

this just keeps getting better. If CR is a sin to you, it's because of YOUR convictions. There is no scripture to back this up.

There are things we do everyday that don't glorify God. Are eating, sleeping, using the restroom, driving to work, brushing your teeth sinful now?

which is why I said COULD be sinful. Pay attention, you just might learn something. lol

n david · #**170** 10-21-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Can you prove that CR is NOT sin?????? Anything that does not glorify God could be sinful.

So then everything we do must glorify God? Do you golf? Fish? Play any board games or card games? Do you go on vacation or visit amusement parks? Be careful, because that could be sinful.

I dare say the majority of what's currently labeled christian rock does glorify God in their lyrics.

Here are some bands labeled as Christian Rock, whose lyrics absolutely glorify God:
Casting Crowns
Newsboys
Third Day
MercyMe
Kutless
David Crowder Band
Tenth Avenue North
Jeremy Camp
Hillsong United
Building 429
Michael W. Smith
Jimmy Needham
Sonicflood