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Old 11-12-2014, 12:33 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

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How do you define "person" Prax?

I believe a "person" to be a self-conscious reality, personality, or "self" that is able to be distinguished from another self-conscious reality, personality, or "self" through the expression of an "I/thou" relationship. Therefore, when Jesus speaks of Himself in a manner that distinguishes His own self-conscious reality, personality, or self from the Father... He establishes His own distinct personhood.

Considering the limitations that Jesus speaks of (in comparison to His Father), I conclude that Christ's person is human with human limitations.

Considering the Epistles, I also conclude that the human person of Jesus, the Son of God, is fashioned in the express image of the Father's own person. Therefore, the human person, the Son of God, reflects the very image of the Father's own person. Therefore, even in Christ's humanity He is a reflection of the Father. As a result, the Father's own person is perfectly revealed in the human person of Jesus, as a man.

Now, I also believe that this human person (the man Jesus Christ) and the Father (God) exist in an inseparable union. They are one and exist in a state wherein their singleness of being is best described as being a mutual indwelling. As a result, each partakes in all that the other is. This allows us to be able to say that in Christ, God became a man. And that this man was also God.
You have two persons.. Honestly nothing you said made sense to me.

One Person is a man but is also God. God (One person) became that man (*the other person)

God became two persons.
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