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Originally Posted by mfblume
No I am not saying that at all. How in the world can you take me saying the Spirit does the work of washing sins when we're baptized as saying it enters our lives and exits again? The Spirit does everything in our lives that is supernatural. Asking me if I think the Spirit enters and leaves if I believe the Spirit remits sins at baptism is like asking a person if the Spirit enters and exits when someone is healed.
I am not saying anything different about salvation.
He does not indwell us when he washes sins away in baptism. Why on earth do you think washing sins by the Spirit means otherwise?
I cannot make sense out of your questions, because you mistook what I said and thought I meant the Spirit indwells temporarily when baptized and exits again. I never implied anything about that whatsoever.
How do YOU think the Spirit washes sins at baptism? Do you not believe before one is filled with the Spirit that one's sins can be remitted, or something?
Do you think every act of the Spirit upon a life means he indwells and then exits? Why do we have to consider Him indwelling in order for Him to do anything in our lives?
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I feel where many apostolics err is that they think these literal, tangible things called
sins are
washed away at baptism. It simply is not so. Nor is any blood
applied. We are forgiven of our sins by God for Christ's sake in baptism because we have trusted in the price he paid for our sins and have submitted to his lordship. That's it. Nothing literal in a sense of cleansing. Just forgiveness. Then, with us having submitted to the gospel, God is free to literally deal with our sin nature and give a new nature by Spirit baptism.
My point in your last post is that you think the Spirit cleanses from sin in baptism, but does not fill us then. Why would he do that and not just move on in immediately?