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Originally Posted by jfrog
How does this reconcile with the thought that we are forgiven by Christ dying for our sins? Was Christ's death alone not enough, must we still forgive others in order to obtain forgiveness as Jesus said in Matthew 6:14-15?
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Originally Posted by shazeep
amen
What is 'faith in Christ,' or 'obedience to the Gospel?' I submit that these are some religious words, that religious people say--quite possibly even meaning them; and even in those cases, quite possibly hypocritical. So, i look for forgiving people, over the other, to be called 'faithful servant.'
"With the measure you use, it will be measured to you," so I'm not sure how you might justify this statement? Although surely i am just lost in the semantics here, i think the first one may largely come from the other two. Or wholly.
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Correct me if I am wrong but the original post read like forgiving a person is one of the things you need to do in order to be saved.
When I mentioned faith in Christ and obedience to the gospel, I was talking about how a person gains entrance to the kingdom.
faith in Christ (accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior)
gospel (death, burial, resurrection of Jesus)
obedience to the gospel (repentance, water baptism in Jesus Name, Spirit baptism)
Salvation for me has past, present, and future tenses.
I can say that I was saved (through faith and obedience to the gospel)
I am saved (freedom from the power of sin; I am no longer slave to it)
I will be saved (resurrection/glorification)
Of course, forgiveness is important and it is part of holy living (inward holiness or Christlikeness). And as previously pointed out from one of the other posts, an unforgiving spirit hinders our prayers. I only said what I said because of the question "Was Christ's death alone not enough?"
Forgiving others, I would say falls under repentance if we are to talk about entrance to the kingdom.
Once saved, a Christian must continue to practice it, else, he won't be forgiven if commits sin again, and this would endanger his soul. He might lose his salvation.
Hope this clarifies it.
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