born of water

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et al. there is also life after extreme pentecostalism

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Baptism, as with repentance, is a matter of the heart. I wonder: if we asked everyone why they were baptized, if they
would answer: "Because I was told." I ask myself, "Is that the faith required for salvation? That they were baptized because
they were told, and not for "...remission of sons..."? I'm sorry to say, that the gospel that saves is not
really being preached today.

Would I rebaptize someone, today? I would sit them down, go over the essence of the gospel and ask if that is
what they believe today; then ask if that is what they believed when they were first baptized.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism. It is NOT the number of times the believer is baptized that matters most: it is
what one believes when one is baptized! It is not obedience plus faith; rather, it is faith plus obedience.

well put, but i can only wonder what % of seekers in the Pent movement are being wooed with "every inch of skin will be stripped from you," and "count the cost." Imo, it will not matter how one holds their mouth at these baptisms.