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Old 12-24-2014, 04:39 PM
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Re: born of water

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Invoking of the name AKA "calling on the name", as in, calling out to the Lord in repentance confessing that he has indeed been exalted and is Lord.

If you mean that unless the baptizer says "in the name of Jesus" while baptizing the person, that "God does not move", as in, God does not forgive the person being baptized of their sins, in spite of their faith, repentance and submission, and in spite of the fact that they go on to receive the Holy Ghost......then that is error (if that is what you mean).

Either way, I esteem you as a brother and do respect you.
Let me get this straight. You believe that the baptizee is meant to call on the name of the Lord as per Acts 22:16? And does that imply the person doing the baptism does not need to call on the name in invocation? If so, then the person is baptizing him/herself, and that does not work.

The minister must invoke the name for God to act and move to do the washing away or remission of sins, otherwise the person doing the baptizing did not obey the Lords command to baptize people in Jesus' name. When devils are cast out to move the Lord into action the person being delivered does not call out the name of the Lord. That damsel did not call out in Jesus' name. So when Jesus told people to baptize in His name He did not mean for the candidate to call out His name.

When a person is baptized in the name of Jesus, that person is not the one calling out the name. They are BEING BAPTIZED BY SOMEONE in the name of Jesus. This puts the onus on the baptizer to speak the name.
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