WII To be fair, I did google this so feel free to take it with a grain of salt, lol.
Was Muhammad Illiterate?
For me that is not a very important question since Muhammad's illiteracy doesn't prove anything. The famous classical Greek poet Homer was blind and hence couldn't read or write either. But he composed one of the most famous pieces of literature.
Nobody would conclude that he was therefore a prophet. One can say anything orally that one could write by hand. One can hear anything read or narrated by others that one could read with one's own eyes.
Whether Muhammad had the technical ability to read and write or not, doesn't not imply anything about the source of his speech or the possibility of having been informed by others orally.
As such, taking this criterion as a proof of his prophethood is not very strong.
Also, Muslims tell emphasize that the Qur'an and the Muhammad in some hadith stress learning and to seek knowledge. The process of learning and growing in knowledge is certainly much easier if one can read and write.
If Muhammad indeed put such a strong emphasis on learning, why would he for all of his life insist to not learn himself? First of all: Not learn to read and write, second to use reading to learn more? Is he disobedient to his own exhortations?
The Hadith (stories exampling what Mohammed did here and there throughout his life) seem to imply that Mohammed was literate. At least there are many Hadith referring to letters written or documents written by Mohammed.
absolutly true. most of those who die at the hands of islamic madmen are muslims. yet in an islamic court the killers can quote Sharia for their defense.
Islam has a very serious problem that is causing deaths at a rate of thousands upon thousands every single month.
and guys like you who are not violent idiots arent standing up and saying "yep we got us a problem and we got to get if fixed."
instead in my city Muslims are gathering this week to hold a confernce and talk about its the MEDIAS FAULT and the WESTS FAULT that Islam has a bad rep.
true story.
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Cultural and marital customs that boarder on abuse can be found in every culture.
What troubles me is how Islam actually allows for lying to advance the religion. In Christianity, this is condemned.
Romans 3:7-8 English Standard Version (ESV)
7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? 8 And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.
With this in mind, Christianity is proven to be ethically more moral than Islam.
Yes sir you are. I get giddy when I think about the wonderful benefits of having christian neighbors!
A Christian progress report! Let's call it "christian life in Boston"
That you are pleased among yr many & weighty imployments to spend so many serious thoughts and good wishes upon us, & the work of the Lord in our hands, I must needs acknowledge it among other the special favours of God towards us, and an undoubted testimony of yr sincere Love towards us: which makes me the more careful to satisfy yr desire, of being truly informed of our estate (this being the first safe means of Conveyance since I received yrs in October last) you may please therefore to understand that first, for the number of our people, we never took any survey of them, nor do we intend it, except inforced through urgent occasion (David’s example sticks somewhat with us) [some Protestants interpreted the Bible as forbidding a census] but I esteem them to be in all about 4000 souls & upward: in good health (for the most parse) & well provided of all necessarys: so as (through the Lords special providence) there hath not died about 2: or 3: grown persons, & about so many Children all in the last year, it being verye rare to heare of any sick of agues or other diseases, nor have I known of any quartan Ague amonge us since I came into the Countrye. For Our susistence here, the means hitherto hath been the yearly access of new Comers, who have supplied all our wants, for Cattle, & the fruits of our labours, as board, pale, smiths work etc: if this should fail, then we have other meanes which may supply us, as fish viz: Cod, bass & herring, for which no place in the world exceeds us, if we can compass salt at a reasonable rate: our grounds likewise are apt for hemp & flax & rape seeds, & all sorts of roots, pumpkins & other fruits, which for taste & wholesomeness far exceed those in England: our grapes also (wherewith the Country abounds) afford a good hard wine. Our ploughs go on with good success, we are like to have 20 at work next year: our lands are aptest for Rye and oats. Our winters are sharp & longe, I may reckon 4 months for storing of cattle, but we find no difference whither they be housed or go abroad: our summers are somewhat more fervent in heat than in England. Our civil Government is mixt: the freemen choose the magistrates every year . . . and at 4: courts in the year 3: out of each town (there being 8 in all) do assist the magistrates in making of laws, imposing taxes, & disposing of lands: our furies [?] are chosen by the freemen of everye town. Our Churches are governed by Pastors, Teachers ruling Elders & Deacons, yet the power lies in the whole Congregation and not in the Presbytery [not in a larger council of churches] further than for order and precedence. For the natives, they are near all dead of the smallpox, so the Lord hath cleared our title to what we possess.
John Winthrop describes life in Boston, 1634
The peace and love for others just drips from the page
South America, North America, Asia, Africa - A question was asked so long ago. Is there one place that christianity has ever brought peace to? A city, a town, a nation? On what basis do you play "better man" with anyone?
Last edited by Walks_in_islam; 01-15-2015 at 07:00 AM.
absolutly true. most of those who die at the hands of islamic madmen are muslims. yet in an islamic court the killers can quote Sharia for their defense.
Islam has a very serious problem that is causing deaths at a rate of thousands upon thousands every single month.
and guys like you who are not violent idiots arent standing up and saying "yep we got us a problem and we got to get if fixed."
instead in my city Muslims are gathering this week to hold a confernce and talk about its the MEDIAS FAULT and the WESTS FAULT that Islam has a bad rep.
true story.
You suggesting i or anyone i know has anything to do with that?
absolutly true. most of those who die at the hands of islamic madmen are muslims. yet in an islamic court the killers can quote Sharia for their defense.
Islam has a very serious problem that is causing deaths at a rate of thousands upon thousands every single month.
and guys like you who are not violent idiots arent standing up and saying "yep we got us a problem and we got to get if fixed."
instead in my city Muslims are gathering this week to hold a confernce and talk about its the MEDIAS FAULT and the WESTS FAULT that Islam has a bad rep.
true story.
Lol they can quote anything they want to quote. They are still executed.
South America, North America, Asia, Africa - A question was asked so long ago. Is there one place that christianity has ever brought peace to? A city, a town, a nation? On what basis do you play "better man" with anyone?
The nature of any religion is to bring division and war. True "spirituality" transcends religion. Modern Islam could learn a lot from their Sufi friends.
I can respect Sufism for the most part. In fact, if I were to ever convert to Islam (which I don't see at the moment), Sufism would be the only brand of Islam in which I could find inspiration.
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