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Old 01-17-2015, 04:16 PM
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Re: Original Sin

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Beloved, my statement agrees with scripture
"Let us make man in our image...likeness...So God created man...". And then: "And God
formed man from the dust of the ground."

You are correct from the point of view of Gen. 2:7. Adam's BODY OF FLESH, like our own,
was not perfect because it was to know sin and death. That said, however, Adam was created
in God's image and likeness: eternal. God knew Adam was to sin, so He did not create him in
an immortal body, but "...formed him from the dust of the ground." That is, from a substance
(earth) that was not destined to be eternal! Thus, Adam's body was mortal from the beginning,
although death did not occur until sin was conceived.

Now, if the body of man was to be immortal, or not eternal, then so also that from which the body
was formed. That is not the case: for this universe was also created with a beginning and an end:
else why do the scriptures state "In the beginning...".

Tell me, from where or from what was this universe created? If God is eternal, and fills eternity,
where was the universe? "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word
of God, so that things that are seen were not made of things which do appear."

You still don't get it! You are, in essence, stating that God, who is PERFECT, choose to create an IMPERFECT earth and IMPERFECT mankind, simply because Adam would, at some point after his creation come to a moment in time when he would "know sin and death." Preposterous!

That is re-writing the biblical story of creation to suit your corrupt philosophy, and its simply NOT true! According to your philosophy an IMPERFECT God created man "in His IMPERFECT image" and "after His IMPERFECT" likeness!

Where it is written, or even insinuated, anywhere in the scriptural record, that God created things with an "EXPIRATION DATE," as you seem to be alleging? Its NOT there! It was the introduction of sin which brought about the death of all things!

God did NOT "curse" the ground until AFTER Adam sinned, implying that at its creation it was, like man before sin corrupted his body, created in PERFECTION. Go read Genesis 3:17 wherein it is written in clear and unmistakable language; "cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life."

If Adam had not sinned he would have been able to continue to eat the herbs of the field and the fruits of the trees as God had been providing him prior to his act of sinful rebellion against His commandment!

Genesis 1:1 states "In the beginning" because that what it was PRIOR to the existence of God's creation of the VISIBLE, substantive universe and all that is therein, including mankind! Instead of the word "universe" in this passage, we find the word "heaven" instead, for that is what the universe is, the heavens.

Absolutely NOTHING existed until God spoke it into existence through the power of His Word. And, because God is PERFECT, then everything that He created was created as PERFECT, barring none. Even Satan, as an angel named Lucifer, was said to be PERFECT in his beginning, for God, being PERFECT, is incapable of creating things which are IMPERFECT!
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