Original Sin

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Originally Posted by thephnxman

Let's deal with the issues in bold before going any further, OK? Just bear with me.

Sure.

(1a) How/why did God KNOW man would sin?
Now, did Adam and Eve sinned "willfully", as some denom's believe; or were they tempted?
If they sinned willfully then I would think they have no place with the Church, hence No
Church; but since there IS a Church, then Adam and Eve could not have sinned
willfully, but were tempted;

Well, not totally. Eve was deceived, but Adam was not. What does that say?

1Ti 2:14 KJV And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Granted, it may simply mean that the devil knew better than to go to Adam so went to the woman. And that would mean the devil knew the woman could actually tempt him more successfully than he could as the serpent.

(1b Now, if they (Adam and Eve) were tempted, it is because there was one who tempted.

Right.

So Lucifer was in the garden, either shielding himself behind the serpent or he was the
very serpent, itself. In other words, iniquity was present in the garden. Now if iniquity was
in the garden, then it stands to reason that Lucifer (Satan) had already been cast out of from
God's presence (God is eternal).

Amen, I've always believed that.

So now the question is: was man created AFTER iniquity

Yes.

was found in Lucifer, or before? I believe that the witness is after.

I agree.

(2) Man WILL NOT exist physically after the heavens (as we know them) are dissolved.

Okay. You just made a huge unjustified leap right there. Nothing about what you said that we agree upon earlier draws this as a conclusion.

Are you are saying man will get a PHYSICAL body but it will only be temporary? I am confident the new body is physical in 1 Cor 15. So, how in the world does anything you said before this point imply man was not intended to remain physically on the earth?

Man was created by God's Word and has God's indwelling Spirit. Therefore there is only
one place that man will abide: in God!

No, man did not have the Spirit in him when he was created. I believe that would have happened had he eaten of the fruit of life. Not before.

Now, the presence of the forbidden tree lets us know there was a test, Sin was in existence. God knew the serpent would come, but he told Adam what was His will.

But none of that implies anything about whether or not God intended man to remain physical.

And nothing you stated about Man created by the Word with God's Spirit in Him does either.

Man was not created with God's Spirit.

And abiding in God is not available only if man has no physical. We're in Christ now!

So, you seem to have some HUGE gaps here over which you make huge leaps of assumption, in all due respect.

Now , I might be wrong, but your points do not prove that.