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Old 01-22-2015, 05:18 AM
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Re: Original Sin

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Originally Posted by mfblume View Post
Sure.
Well, not totally. Eve was deceived, but Adam was not. What does that say?
1Ti 2:14 KJV And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Granted, it may simply mean that the devil knew better than to go to Adam so went to the woman. And that would mean the devil knew the woman could actually tempt him more successfully than he could as the serpent.
Right.
Amen, I've always believed that.
Yes.
I agree.
Okay. You just made a huge unjustified leap right there. Nothing about what you said that we agree upon earlier draws this as a conclusion.
Are you are saying man will get a PHYSICAL body but it will only be temporary? I am confident the new body is physical in 1 Cor 15. So, how in the world does anything you said before this point imply man was not intended to remain physically on the earth?
No, man did not have the Spirit in him when he was created. I believe that would have happened had he eaten of the fruit of life. Not before.
Now, the presence of the forbidden tree lets us know there was a test, Sin was in existence. God knew the serpent would come, but he told Adam what was His will.
But none of that implies anything about whether or not God intended man to remain physical.
And nothing you stated about Man created by the Word with God's Spirit in Him does either.
Man was not created with God's Spirit.
And abiding in God is not available only if man has no physical. We're in Christ now!
So, you seem to have some HUGE gaps here over which you make huge leaps of assumption, in all due respect.
Now , I might be wrong, but your points do not prove that.
I must apologize for not finishing the post: To resume...

I am not trying to draw any conclusion(s): just putting info to let you know where I stand;

I did not touch upon a "temporary" physical body;

I said, implying creation, that man was created by God's word; and also touched upon the resurrected Church, which WILL HAVE God's Spirit;

Sin WAS NOT YET in existence, iniquity was.

Correct, no implication as to man's "physical" body after the resurrection;

I believe man was created a spirit being by God's WORD;

Again, I am not trying to come to any conclusion through assumptions;

YES, your reading of my post assumes facts.
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