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Old 05-07-2015, 11:29 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

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I quote Jesus, and you quote letters from someone who never actually experienced His teaching. Nice.
So you say PAUL WAS INEPT? You dent the teachings of Paul? I quoted Jesus, too! But you never responded to the words I quoted as you don't respond to Paul's. And you say YOU AGREE with the Bible? Thanks for confessing you disagree with the Bible.

Paul said this as well:

1Co 14:37 KJV If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Do you deny that?

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You also seem upset, why? I left out no context.
No one's upset. And you left out context in the teachings where righteousness for salvation is given freely without good deeds by faith in the work of the cross. I said it again and again why you miss context. Are you not reading?

Look at Jesus' words:
Joh 6:28-29 KJV Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? (29) Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Do you believe God SENT HIS "SON" and that Jesus is "God's SON" and He sent Him to die and resurrect?

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I do not believe that your interpretation of these passages is "truth" and I do not acknowledge you as qualified to define what is "truth" or not "truth" to me, as you seem to acknowledge yourself.
You are not reading. I am asking you guys to show me what these verses ARE saying, and you never seem to do that. I am asking. Show me where I am wrong and why and how from the verses I am quoting. Anyone can SAY a person is wrong about the verse and it's THEIR PERSONAL interpretation of it, but never say what it is ACTUALLY saying.

I challenge you to say what those verses ARE saying, something you and Shazeep are repeatedly avoiding to do.

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I do not acknowledge letters written to various churches that contradict what Jesus taught as "inspired"
So, ,you disagree with the parts of the Bible. You say the epistles CONTRADICT what Jesus taught.

Joh 6:28-29 KJV Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? (29) Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

What about those verses above?

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You do not have an answer to verses that are attributed to Jesus that I posted out of your bible to demonstrate my points, as per your request to use them.
I answered them. I told you good works are needful in their proper place, which place I showed you was AFTER one is saved by Christ's work of the cross. Now I showed you what Jesus said THAT is exactly what Paul agreed with in the verses I quoted.

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So that leaves you one option really. As a true believer, and as per your own view of yourself, and your own criteria, you must now drink deadly poison to demonstrate that you are a true believer, as per your list of "signs of true believers" while ridiculing Muslims above. Please tape it and have someone post it here for us.
If you believe Jesus' words, did you drink deadly poison to prove you are a true follower of His words? Show me the video. You took that out of context, .... .again.

It's like Paul taking up a serpent and it biting but not killing him in Acts. So, by the way YOU handle those statements of Jesus, show me you're a follower.
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