Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Sean

I sit down with preterists daily right in my chair.

What is cool about this forum is I don't get bit by your preterist pooch. LOL

There is no place in a debate room for barking dogs, bro.

(I debated Hebrew Roots Apostolics for over a year, every Thurs. night, face to face.)

When I "cornered" the leader with his errors, he melted down twice and started yelling, slamming his laptop shut and storming out of the room.

I even brought a printout for all in attendance of the 613 commandments for everyone in attendance and had them go through them, line by line.

I was a little too meticulous for their group, and the deceiving spirits on these men reared their ugly heads.


I look for emotional meltdowns in these arguments too.

The pooch is the only one that comes unglued out of all you guys.

I offered him to buy him a metaphoric dinner if he comes to town, but he thinks that it is lying.

Now if YOU come to town, I will buy you a REAL dinner and we can have a fun discussion of our beliefs.

Let me know if you are in town, okay?

Sean, the way to describe those hebrew roots guys sounds an awful lot like how you act on here.... just sayin... kinda funny you cant see it lol.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Sean, the way to describe those hebrew roots guys sounds an awful lot like how you act on here.... just sayin... kinda funny you cant see it lol.

Smile bro.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Now suppose the entire world was on this 'Oh, please, don't wanna hear about the fear of traffic anymore, it makes people feel bad'. *I* would be inclined to wlk around town with full colour posters showing the horror of children being run over by rush hour traffic. I'd be telling everyone I knew 'you BETTER fear that traffic, buddy!'

Why?

Well, just because.

That is, just because the world on their self-esteem kick doesn't want to hear a vital truth of God, makes it all the more important to emphasize that vital truth of God. People who are looking for Sappy Santa Claus don't need to hear about how cute and cuddly sweet baby Jesus is, they need to hear (and FEEL) 'the terror of the Lord'.

Just as someone who has felt the terror of the Lord, and has lain awake at night in cold sweats knowing they aren't right with God and that God might require their soul of them that very night, and they aren't ready, because of all their horrific sins and abominable rebellion against the pure Holy Righteous JUDGE of all men, needs to hear how merciful, kind, compassionate, and loving that Holy God is, and how he has provided a way of escape.

Good post, and also like the new avatar.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

And I bet you don't have a clue why I find that so funny...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

I sit down with preterists daily right in my chair.

What is cool about this forum is I don't get bit by your preterist pooch. LOL

There is no place in a debate room for barking dogs, bro.

(I debated Hebrew Roots Apostolics for over a year, every Thurs. night, face to face.)

When I "cornered" the leader with his errors, he melted down twice and started yelling, slamming his laptop shut and storming out of the room.

I even brought a printout for all in attendance of the 613 commandments for everyone in attendance and had them go through them, line by line.

I was a little too meticulous for their group, and the deceiving spirits on these men reared their ugly heads.


I look for emotional meltdowns in these arguments too.

The pooch is the only one that comes unglued out of all you guys.

I offered him to buy him a metaphoric dinner if he comes to town, but he thinks that it is lying.

Now if YOU come to town, I will buy you a REAL dinner and we can have a fun discussion of our beliefs.

Let me know if you are in town, okay?

Dude you have no fear of God.

Wanna try telling the truth?

Sean tell the truth, they ran you up out of that Bible study.

[Sean]

Nah, I humiliated them with truth and the leader was out of control. I let them continue to dress in their rabbinical garb and keep the Sabbath.

Kinda like you preterists.

You will take your doctrines to the grave.

I can only do so much to help you see the truth, but when I realize you cannot change, then I simply want to expose your false teachings to others'.

[shazeep]

ya, nevermind all that 'humility' jazz, huh; that's for everyone else

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ya, nevermind all that 'humility' jazz, huh; that's for everyone else

Heh heh heh

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Nah, I humiliated them with truth and the leader was out of control. I let them continue to dress in their rabbinical garb and keep the Sabbath.

Kinda like you preterists.

You will take your doctrines to the grave.

I can only do so much to help you see the truth, but when I realize you cannot change, then I simply want to expose your false teachings to others'.

Always the professional liar aren't you Sean.

You were exposed once before (I have reposted this quote a few times) but you have never refuted anyone concerning eschatology.

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

First off Sean you did not destroy anyone on the subject of preterism except in your own imagination. Wow your delusion has no bounds.

Also, Sean, do you remember this post....?

Originally Posted by Truthseeker71

Sean...

I am distressed to see the accusations you have inserted needlessly against your brothers to support your position. ..I do agree with a lot of what you say but not in the way you go about it. Below is your quote. ..I was at that table. You don't name any names and that's fine I won't either but I will address a few of the assumptions you draw that are sadly mistaken...

Assumption 1:

"I spent most of last year in a live debate forum with "Juda-iser" Pentecostals (some are friends of 30 years),"

From the other side no one is or was ever promoting Judaism. You know this. Yet why would you say such a thing?

Assumption 2:

" that have strayed into demanding us to keep the law of Moses as a requirement."

Again, this post would be a mile long to rehash the conversations of the last 9 months but no one has or is demanding anyone to keep the law of Moses as a requirement. You know this as it was reiterated many times. There was however a strong assertion that the instructions of God are still indeed valid, good, perfect, applicable, and still true regardless of who you believe you are in the whole idea of a set apart people. ..Make no mistake God has not changed, his standard is the same and his instructions still define sin. I do not think you would say otherwise. So why do you accuse of "straying" (from what?). ..And demanding? I just don't get it...

Assumption 3:

" It really is sad to see the enemy at work and the bias and ignorance that people have towards the Word, and the lack of fear towards God. "

Worst accusation of all that you believe obedience to the word of God is somehow the influence of Satan. Bias and ignorance abound in us all my brother. ..I imagine a little introspection wouldn't hurt here. I know the men at that table have a deep love for the word and a sincere desire for truth...a lack of "fear towards God" is not what drives the deep study, prayer, and meditation on the word. ..But you know this.... ..So why would you say otherwise...

I am not a little saddened by these accusations on this public forum. I do know how zealous you are and how hard you have worked for the kingdom and I've no wish to push you down. ..I was there. ..Now it seems you were saying one thing, but thinking another. ..May we all learn a lesson of holding who we "say" is our brother and who we "say" we love in higher regard. ..Please think before you speak harshly or without discretion. The walls are listening...

Shalom

Sean, you have a problem with telling the truth. Your modus operandi doesn't really change whether on forums or in person.

Before you start correcting anyone on forums concerning what they believe as in tithing, eschatology, Bible translations, maybe you should work a little on your own character.

[Sean]

Just exposing lying preterists is a character flaw huh?

I guess you are running out of ammo these days....LOL