Love One Another and the Cross

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Of course not; it is your perspective, and ergo must be the correct one--it can even be "proven" with Scripture. I am deficient, and don't get it. I have spiritual issues, and must be possessed by a demon! A person should be convinced in their own mind.

It's really quite evident after I present passages that you don't so much as respond to with an alternative explanation, and show you entire chapters that teach the concept, and note them verse by verse and you still do not respond. You REFUSE to deal with actual bible I present after you asked me to show them to you!.

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...of course it good be a mental issue. Seriously.

[shazeep]

um, humble myself, and come back to an understanding that anyone who does not agree with you is lost?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It's really quite evident after I present passages that you don't so much as respond to with an alternative explanation, and show you entire chapters that teach the concept, and note them verse by verse and you still do not respond. You REFUSE to deal with actual bible I present after you asked me to show them to you!.

hey, I'm possessed, and not humble, aside from not knowing any Scripture! What do you expect?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

...of course it good be a mental issue. Seriously.

ok, that doesn't even make any sense; but i find myself in total agreement!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

hey, I'm possessed, and not humble, aside from not knowing any Scripture! What do you expect?

What do you expect, after all I am egotistical and was handed all I believe and never actually learned it from the bible.

Originally Posted by shazeep

um, humble myself, and come back to an understanding that anyone who does not agree with you is lost?

You cannot get it that it's the word not me. That always was the issue. Tell me one thing, why did you NEVER deal with any verse I showed you with explanations as to what it really means and where in the verse I went wrong?

Why should you answer now? You never have.

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, that doesn't even make any sense; but i find myself in total agreement!

You mean I wrote something that made no sense? Good company, then. ...After all the times your words were vague and you never complied to my requests to rephrase them.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You cannot get it that it's the word not me. That always was the issue. Tell me one thing, why did you NEVER deal with any verse I showed you with explanations as to what it really means and where in the verse I went wrong?

Why should you answer now? You never have.

I did answer this--i don't think you are wrong! I think you have made a choice, backed up by Scripture as you see it, and need only be secure in your own mind. Experience tells me that one's perspectives change with time, where they are seeking more wisdom in a matter, and that one's choices define them. If Scripture has taught me nothing else, It has taught me that God cannot be defined in a sentence.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

I did answer this--i don't think you are wrong! I think you have made a choice, backed up by Scripture as you see it, and need only be secure in your own mind. Experience tells me that one's perspectives change with time, where they are seeking more wisdom in a matter, and that one's choices define them. If Scripture has taught me nothing else, It has taught me that God cannot be defined in a sentence.

Then words lose all meaning. The word is not arbitrary.

Interesting, still, why you avoid Paul's teachings over and again.

I've made a choice to believe what the bible says. It's not a perspective. It's what the bible actually teaches.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Then words lose all meaning. The word is not arbitrary.

Interesting, still, why you avoid Paul's teachings over and again.

I've made a choice to believe what the bible says. It's not a perspective. It's what the bible actually teaches.

Then one must ask why we do not all worship in the same church? And Paul's teachings become answered with "See you on my deathbed," if you prefer him to Christ. Yes, you have made a choice; but that does not mean that you will never make any other choices in the matter; or does it?

God is Love; and it is up to us to reflect upon whether our beliefs align with that, or become at odds to it. Interesting to me that one would surely ascribe the most fitting of human emotions to those entering the ministry; service, dedication, selflessness, etc.--but ministry is a top ten draw for psychopaths, also.

[shazeep]

I have noted this in general before; it seems that, without fail, in order to forward your perspective of salvation, one is limited to quoting Paul!