Love One Another and the Cross

[shazeep]

yes, thank God. It should be obvious that in order to "preach" Christ one should be able to demonstrate that they understand Him; but this is of course not a requirement in Christianity. And so we find that "understanding" is defined as "verbally agreeing," a "pastor" presenting his Christian bona-fides for inspection. When you find yourself in hypocrisy, is it not better to do something--anything--different, rather than what one has been doing?

The difference may be as simple as the difference in "preach" and "show," but i am not here to dispute anyone's interpretation of Scripture. I have a lexicon; and i have common sense, that tells me which interpretation is self-serving, and which is not.

If we take your interpretation, then i am bound to point out to you that you are lost and going to hell, if you do not change your ways and heed what i am preaching to you. And i can demonstrate this with Scripture. So either you want to come to a saving knowledge of Christ, or you do not, Mike. The choice is up to you.

[shazeep]

Now, either you can feel the love in that, or not! What's it gonna be?

[shazeep]

I reject nothing in the bible. But you're sure avoiding anything to do with what the bible says about what God requires for salvation. Forget me. Talk bible.

"What remits sins?"
"A good deed covers many sins."

"What makes us righteous?"
"Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as He is righteous."

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yes, thank God. It should be obvious that in order to "preach" Christ one should be able to demonstrate that they understand Him;

You said everyone is lost and in the dark. That means no one can preach Christ.

but this is of course not a requirement in Christianity. And so we find that "understanding" is defined as "verbally agreeing," a "pastor" presenting his Christian bona-fides for inspection. When you find yourself in hypocrisy, is it not better to do something--anything--different, rather than what one has been doing?

Keep acting like I never addressed these important issues.

The difference may be as simple as the difference in "preach" and "show," but i am not here to dispute anyone's interpretation of Scripture. I have a lexicon; and i have common sense, that tells me which interpretation is self-serving, and which is not.

If we take your interpretation, then i am bound to point out to you that you are lost and going to hell, if you do not change your ways and heed what i am preaching to you. And i can demonstrate this with Scripture. So either you want to come to a saving knowledge of Christ, or you do not, Mike. The choice is up to you.

If you consider yourself preaching to me then you are lost and a hypocrite. You said we're all lost and no one can preach.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

I reject nothing in the bible. But you're sure avoiding anything to do with what the bible says about what God requires for salvation. Forget me. Talk bible.

"What remits sins?"
"A good deed covers many sins."

The doer of good deeds covers whose sins?

"What makes us righteous?"
"Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as He is righteous."

Again you read nothing I say. That does not show what makes us righteous. It only shows who is righteous.

You've got a bloodless gospel.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

If you consider yourself preaching to me then you are lost and a hypocrite. You said we're all lost and no one can preach.

"If we take your interpretation"

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

"If we take your interpretation"

Explain the reasoning in your interpretation and why you think it is correct from the scripture itself. What part of the verse demands your interpretation and why is mine incorrect?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You've got a bloodless gospel.

well, i'll take what you consider a bloodless Gospel over dead faith any day, and i find Christ agrees with me! "Go, and do likewise." "Love is 9/10ths."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Explain the reasoning in your interpretation and why you think it is correct from the scripture itself. What part of the verse demands your interpretation and why is mine incorrect?

hey, you can read "preach" there if you like. You will know by the fruit.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

hey, you can read "preach" there if you like. You will know by the fruit.

It's not a matter of being known by fruit. It's a matter of whether mankind is supposed to preach or not. You effectively removed the need to preach the gospel.