Dialogue with a Muslim

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Notice how, without meaning to, you have verified that his salvation depends upon his conversation. He is rejected because he does not talk about Christ the same way you do. His fruit--which reflects his heart--is not considered.

i haven't read your most recent posts, i'll come back for that.

He rejects, as all Muslims do, Christ as the Savior or means to salvation.

Muslims reject Jesus died for our sins. They reject He is the Atonement. They reject He is the Son and John says to reject Father and Son is Anti-christ. its not about what we say but what the bible says

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

He rejects, as all Muslims do, Christ as the Savior or means to salvation.

Muslims reject Jesus died for our sins. They reject He is the Atonement. They reject He is the Son and John says to reject Father and Son is Anti-christ. its not about what we say but what the bible says

Muslims admit that Christ came in the flesh, and generally do a better job representing him than Christians, in my experience. Sad to say.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Muslims admit that Christ came in the flesh, and generally do a better job representing him than Christians, in my experience. Sad to say.

Muslims deny Jesus is the Son of God
Muslims deny Jesus died on the cross
Muslims deny the atonement
Muslims deny Jesus is the Way to God
Muslims deny Jesus is Lord.

Muslims deny what the bible clearly says about him.

[shazeep]

Like.... Shazeep, whose sins are covered in the passage that says charity covers a multitude of sins?

No answer.


not true, i answered this; you just didn't like the answer, because it supports Scripture that you do not acknowledge.

[shazeep]

So, it's not being a servant to tell people the basic message of the Bible...

not when it conflicts with the other basic message of the Bible, deemed "sufficient for them," no. How are you any different from those crying "Lord, Lord?" If an outsider was asked to identify the group who cries Lord, Lord today, who might they select?

[shazeep]

20If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother,aj he is a liar.ak For the person who does not love his brotheral he has seen cannot love the God he has not seen.am 21And we have this command from Him: The one who loves God must also love his brother.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Notice how, without meaning to, you have verified that his salvation depends upon his conversation. He is rejected because he does not talk about Christ the same way you do. His fruit--which reflects his heart--is not considered.

i haven't read your most recent posts, i'll come back for that.

Wrong. No matter what he says, if his heart never believed, God knows and he's lost. It matters what God knows.

That's what must be preached as well.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Wrong. No matter what he says, if his heart never believed, God knows and he's lost. It matters what God knows.

That's what must be preached as well.

i'm sorry, this does not make sense to me. "If his heart never believed." oh, i think i get what you are trying to say. You have found a definition for "believed," and you think God cares what it is, while simultaneously believing that it is ok to condemn people you don't know based upon the same tortured logic. whatever. fine.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

we are beyond that now. You have proven it when you showed that you were offended by it, like anyone would be, and with your answers to "How do you tell if someone is saved" and your non-answers to "An OP relies upon verbal bona-fides," and my other questions.

Why am I not surprised you won't carry this through.

Offended? Lol.. whatever.

Jello nailed to a wall, boys. Jello nailed to a wall.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Why am I not surprised you won't carry this through.

Offended? Lol.. whatever.

Jello nailed to a wall, boys. Jello nailed to a wall.

yes, well, it wasn't jello for a year, the first three times you ignored it. lol.