God can prevent himself from being omniscient....

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Do you believe in open theism.

Hello Elder,

I've never heard of open theism until you mentioned it.

[Jacob's Ladder]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why does God regret? How can God truly be angry with Israel if he already knew that Israel would rebel against him in the wilderness? Is God acting? These are intelligent, thoughtful questions that you don't have to be an open theist to answer.

What do you believe?

Honest questions for anyone to answer.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I am concerned about topics like this because it puts God beneath a mircroscope, so who do we think we are? lol And most of all it doesn't affect how we grow spiritually. It's more like brain candy than anything beneficial.

Mfblume,

I meant no disrespect toward God regarding this topic. However, as with any relationship, you desire to know and understand the person you're in a relationship with. As is I with God. I'm not aware of any prohibitions in regard to learning about God.

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

I trust God. I don't have to understand everything.

Deacon,

I trust God, but yet I seek to understand more of him. You choose to not understand everything because you're content with what you think you know. However, in seeking further knowledge, it might open doors to deeper avenues you knew not about.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Mfblume,

I meant no disrespect toward God regarding this topic. However, as with any relationship, you desire to know and understand the person you're in a relationship with. As is I with God. I'm not aware of any prohibitions in regard to learning about God.

I understand you meant no disrespect. I'm just pointing out for everyone's consideration that the bible lays out what he wants us to know. other things ought not be pursued.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I understand you meant no disrespect. I'm just pointing out for everyone's consideration that the bible lays out what he wants us to know. other things ought not be pursued.

Mfblume,

One must also understand that whatever information the bible divulges, it's made available for scrutiny. In all seriousness, let me play out this scenario.

Let's pretend that I'm God and I'm conversating with myself:

1) I'm going to create humanity
2) I see in the future, humanity will become very wicked
3)I'm going to create humanity anyway (bam, humans are present)
4)After watching these humans which I created, and knowing they would become wicked, I'm now regretful that I created them because they've become wicked.

So, if the omniscient God knew that humanity would become wicked, why is He experiencing feelings of regret in regard to creating humanity?

I mean, does it make sense to you?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Mfblume,

One must also understand that whatever information the bible divulges, it's made available for scrutiny. In all seriousness, let me play out this scenario.

Let's pretend that I'm God and I'm conversating with myself:

1) I'm going to create humanity
2) I see in the future, humanity will become very wicked
3)I'm going to create humanity anyway (bam, humans are present)
4)After watching these humans which I created, and knowing they would become wicked, I'm now regretful that I created them because they've become wicked.

So, if the omniscient God knew that humanity would become wicked, why is He experiencing feelings of regret in regard to creating humanity?

I mean, does it make sense to you?

I see what you are trying to say. But I'm trying to say the bible could have elaborated on that, but didn't. It could have spent as many chapters in the issue as some are writing books about it, but it didn't. It is, in my opinion, an anthropopathy. But look at what the bible did spend chapters explaining. Focus there.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Hello Elder,

I've never heard of open theism until you mentioned it.

I don't think Open theists would agree with your question.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Honest questions for anyone to answer.

and to ASK. I thought it was a great question.

Genesis 1 has light appearing before the sun and moon were created. Revelation 21 says there will be no sun in the next life on the earth in new Jerusalem but there will be light, the Lamb. I don't know how this can be but I trust God that it was and it will be.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

and to ASK. I thought it was a great question.

Genesis 1 has light appearing before the sun and moon were created. Revelation 21 says there will be no sun in the next life on the earth in new Jerusalem but there will be light, the Lamb. I don't know how this can be but I trust God that it was and it will be.

Can't resist. Sun and moon weren't "made" by first day, not weren't "created."