Drunk in the Spirit

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Do you think you can be filled with the Holy Ghost and not speak in tongues? If the baptism of the Holy Ghost means we receive the ability to speak in tongues then some could choose not to use the ability and still be filled with the Holy Ghost.

Hmm. Could old testament prophets choose not to speak the Word of the Lord that came to them by the Spirit? I think Jeremiah tried that once...

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Do you think you can be filled with the Holy Ghost and not speak in tongues? If the baptism of the Holy Ghost means we receive the ability to speak in tongues then some could choose not to use the ability and still be filled with the Holy Ghost.

Paul asked Spirit-filled believers in I Corinthians "Do all speak in tongues?" If not all are apostles, teachers, etc. Then not all believers speak in tongues.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Paul asked Spirit-filled believers in I Corinthians "Do all speak in tongues?" If not all are apostles, teachers, etc. Then not all believers speak in tongues.

I agree that all believers do not speak with tongues. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Church of Christ, etc.... As an apostolic I have received the Spirit baptism as prescribed by scripture and that is Biblical truth. I see no where in the scripture that tongues was optional at Spirit baptism.

So you believe someone can be baptized another way than speaking in tongues?

You have referred to seeking Biblical accuracy, so what other scripture gives another way for Holy Ghost baptism?

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I agree that all believers do not speak with tongues. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Church of Christ, etc.... As an apostolic I have received the Spirit baptism as prescribed by scripture and that is Biblical truth. I see no where in the scripture that tongues was optional at Spirit baptism.

So you believe someone can be baptized another way than speaking in tongues?

You have referred to seeking Biblical accuracy, so what other scripture gives another way for Holy Ghost baptism?

If you are truly Apostolic you can't believe those denominations you listed as "believers". They aren't saved because they didn't speak in tongues according to Apostolic theology.

There are plenty of instances where people were filled with the Spirit in Scripture and didn't speak in tongues. In fact Acts records 19 conversions. Only three mention speaking in tongues. ALL of them mention either faith/belief/repentance. 100% of the time when people were saved in Acts, people believed. "For by grace are you saved through faith..."

Paul wrote to the CHURCH of Corinth. He asked the CHURCH---Do all speak in tongues?"---the answer is NO, not everyone in the CHURCH speaks in tongues. But everyone who is in the CHURCH believes!

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

There are plenty of instances where people were filled with the Spirit in Scripture and didn't speak in tongues. In fact Acts records 19 conversions. Only three mention speaking in tongues. ALL of them mention either faith/belief/repentance. 100% of the time when people were saved in Acts, people believed. "For by grace are you saved through faith..."

This is called an argument from silence, just because the scriptures do not mention that they spoke with tongues does not mean that they did not.

I am not saying they did or did not, but we can not base our arguments from silence.

[good samaritan]

Jeremiah 20:9 Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.

Good point!

[good samaritan]

I think sometimes peoples' worship may seem explosive because they are trying to suppress what God is doing in them. Instead of surrendering people try and refrain because of fear and embarrassment. When finally there is and instant release and they can't hold back any longer and they go wild. (Just an opinion)

I would rather see someone crazy worshiping God than not worshiping at all.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I think sometimes peoples' worship may seem explosive because they are trying to suppress what God is doing in them. Instead of surrendering people try and refrain because of fear and embarrassment. When finally there is and instant release and they can't hold back any longer and they go wild. (Just an opinion)

I would rather see someone crazy worshiping God than not worshiping at all.

THIS!!! Is the truth.

[berkeley]

Strange fire...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by berkeley

Strange fire...

Prove it by scripture.