Is this where we are headed?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Ferd

maybe...

maybe I should clear it up. Love me a good move of God in that most Apostolic way. seriously. I love a blowout service. I love the movement of the spirit. I believe in it.

I also believe in that quite move of the spirit in my personal life, and in church.


BUT there are more than one spirit.... and only ONE Spirit is good. The rest aint God and aren't good. period.

I don't do scary movies. I especially don't do those movies that get into spiritualism...Omen etc....

BUT I also will not watch a video of some charismatic goofiness. its a spirit that isn't God. I don't separate them out.

is that more clear? Its an extreme position, but I see no difference between a youtube of some charismatics doing the hokie pokie and claiming geebus and some terrible movie.

Yes, much better. It is actually spirituality versus NONSENSE!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Not sure who you're talking to, but my answer is trinitarians believe God existed as Father, Son and Holy Spirit for all eternity past, having no beginning, and interacting with each other, conscious of each other, and loving each other like a group, and are called three persons. Oneness teaches God is one person, had no one to interact with for eternity past, right up until He manifested in flesh as Son of God. The Son had His beginning in that incarnation, and only after that point was there interaction, but it was not between eternal persons, since the Son is not eternal. He's just God manifested in flesh remaining one person, and the only reason there was interaction from that point onward is because he would not be a genuine human being otherwise. It was THAT complete of a manifestation in flesh that the humanity actually relied on deity and prayed, etc.

Brother Blume, please don't talk to shazeep. He doesn't want to know anything. I think he is the Zodiac Killer, who resurfaced as a Internet Troll.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Please explain?

You really want him to explain to you how much he hates One God Pentecost?

[berkeley]

8 minutes that I will never get back. My feelings about this hokey pokey are the same way I feel about the times the pastor made us do Jericho marches around the sanctuary. One time he had several people march with brooms and whatever could be found in the church kitchen. SMH.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Andrews Strom baptizes in Jesus' name and rebukes charismatics for not obeying Acts 2:38. But he's still trinitarian.

Thanks for the new info. I only recently happened upon this as I was researching the Kundalini Serpent as it relates to the serpent in the Garden of Eden.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Could you quote the words in bold using the KJV, please. I don't
understand the other versions.

ah sorry, i was paraphrasing, as i knew you guys knew the verses. My point is that the Oneness position as stated seems to be at odds with several passages of Scripture, which tells us that Christ was, before the earth was.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Again---really really in agreement here.

amen. i liked the "study to be quiet" thing, don't hear that preached much outside of an Anabaptist service. The wisest people seem to be the most reluctant to verbalize.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ah sorry, i was paraphrasing, as i knew you guys knew the verses. My point is that the Oneness position as stated seems to be at odds with several passages of Scripture, which tells us that Christ was, before the earth was.

That's is part and parcel with oneness. Christ was. But the "son" was not since there was no mother yet. How do you see Christ as Pre-existent if he's not God?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That's is part and parcel with oneness. Christ was. But the "son" was not since there was no mother yet. How do you see Christ as Pre-existent if he's not God?

well, the same concept carries over to us; God knew us before we were born, yes?

5I chose you before I formed you in the womb;
I set you apart before you were born. f

[Moriarty]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

There Charismatics.

Those types of churches are basically involved witchcraft.

TIL all charismatics are witches