Do Christians Sin After Salvation?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I understand everything you are trying to convey. But 1st John 3 pretty much nails it all down nicely. Whether you or I, or the butcher, baker, and the candle stick maker can't get it on the go. Then the Bible is right and somebody is wrong. No one's behavior is a measure for the scripture. The scripture says what it says. Whether we like it or not.

1 John 3:7-9

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOETH righteousness IS righteous, even as HE is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he CANNOT sin, because he is born of God.

Who are we to judge another man's servant? Personally I believe that so long as someone is repentant, sin will be forgiven (regardless of before or after conversion). The question is about being repentant. Is someone truly repentant if they continually make the same mistakes over? My assumptions are no, but it is God who decides.

There is no way for us to judge the inward working of God in another person. We can only judge a person's outward fruit. Salvation is personal and between us and God alone. Only God can see if true repentance occurs within the heart. We can only judge the fruit, but God will be our only judge. I am thankful that our eternity is in the hand of a righteous God who makes no mistakes.

Earthly judges depend on witness reports, personal intuition, jury opinion, etc... When we stand before God, He will make no mistakes. He was there all along. That should be a fearful thing to all believers. I adhere to the Acts 2:38 doctrine, but I am not a 3 stepper. It is my interpretation that our salvation is future and not past. We all may say that we are saved, but until that day comes all we have is hope and hope maketh not ashamed.

Does sin arise in a Christian's life I believe it some times does, but how do we deal with it. Do we ignore it, justify it, hide it, etc...? We should confess our faults to a God who is faithful and just to forgive us. As Jesus commanded the lady caught in adultery, "neither do I condemn the go and sin no more."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

Who are we to judge another man's servant? Personally I believe that so long as someone is repentant, sin will be forgiven (regardless of before or after conversion). The question is about being repentant. Is someone truly repentant if they continually make the same mistakes over? My assumptions are no, but it is God who decides.

There is no way for us to judge the inward working of God in another person. We can only judge a person's outward fruit. Salvation is personal and between us and God alone. Only God can see if true repentance occurs within the heart. We can only judge the fruit, but God will be our only judge. I am thankful that our eternity is in the hand of a righteous God who makes no mistakes.

Earthly judges depend on witness reports, personal intuition, jury opinion, etc... When we stand before God, He will make no mistakes. He was there all along. That should be a fearful thing to all believers. I adhere to the Acts 2:38 doctrine, but I am not a 3 stepper. It is my interpretation that our salvation is future and not past. We all may say that we are saved, but until that day comes all we have is hope and hope maketh not ashamed.

Does sin arise in a Christian's life I believe it some times does, but how do we deal with it. Do we ignore it, justify it, hide it, etc...? We should confess our faults to a God who is faithful and just to forgive us. As Jesus commanded the lady caught in adultery, "neither do I condemn the go and sin no more."

Matthew 7:5 tells you that you are able to remove the speck after you remove the beam. You can't be involved in sin and able to judge. The apostle in his epistles was judging situations. Also told a congregation to remove an individual who was actively involved in sin. When the scripture states judge not unless you be judged. It is pointing to your own life first. Jesus then goes on to say that you must clean your own sight in order to judge correctly. Jesus also said that a good tree cannot produce bad fruit. Therefore you will know the tree by its fruit. Again a statement made by Jesus telling His followers how to judge correctly. Therefore the offering I gave in 1st John 3 tells the reader who is of Jesus, and who is of the devil. The Apostle Paul stated that in 1 Corinthians 6:1-3 that the church was to be able to judge between brethren and not go before Judean or Roman magistrates. They were to take care of everything in house. If everyone was supposed to wait until a brother repented the individual who was having an intimate relations with his father's wife would of still remained in the congregation 1 Corinthians 5:1. Isn't that what was happening? Wasn't this illicit affair going on with no one judging the situation? Paul heard about it and wanted to remove the brother from the congregation 1 Corinthians 5:2. Here is the apostle already passing a judgement on a brother's sin 1 Corinthians 5:3. The apostle is telling the congregation that they should of handled this, and turned the brother over to Satan 1 Corinthians 5:5. The apostle then goes on to say that a little sin allowed in the congregation will eventually influence the entire congregation 1 Corinthians 5:6 .

[allstate1]

Mathew 18:22 should answer this question.

[Evang.Benincasa]

If we continue to read everything in context we find that someone lost

Matthew 18:34

Jesus, the apostles, and Paul weren't redefining what was already taught in the Hebrew Bible. But admonishing an extremely backslidden Judea to get back on the narrow path which led through a tight gate.