IHOP - an eyewitness account - Page 7

houston · #61 06-01-2016, 10:39 AM

Creepy video.

Michael The Disciple · #62 06-01-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Yes, Washer's statements can be applied across the board. But his point was mainly that if we are getting our thrills and chills only with certain types of music then we are not being sensitive to the Spirit, we are just following our flesh.

Well if one only feels the Spirit when music is present something is wrong. We had a problem with our last Apostolic Church where if you did not get up and shout or run or walk around the Church during one of their shouting songs "you must not have the Holy Ghost".

Now to me the songs were "ok" but nothing to make me get up shouting everywhere. But in this intensely prejudiced mindset if you dont rejoice as they do you dont really have the Spirit.

If Paul Washer had been there he would be using it as sermon fodder attacking Pentecostals to this day.

So Oneness Pentecostals like Baptist and Luthern Hymns. Old time country gospel. Choir type singing. Those are "acceptable" genres of music.

Michael The Disciple · #63 06-01-2016, 04:09 PM

Just went into an Apostolic room on Patalk where they were playing music. The first song was an excellent one by Petra. The second a Chris Tomlin Contemporary worship song. The one that just came on is a "Reggae" type song. Sounds good so far.

Now they are playing a "Messianic" song. Pretty nice.

Michael The Disciple · #64 06-01-2016, 04:19 PM

Another glorious praise from IHOP!

Your Worthy Of It All

Esaias · #65 06-01-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well if one only feels the Spirit when music is present something is wrong. We had a problem with our last Apostolic Church where if you did not get up and shout or run or walk around the Church during one of their shouting songs "you must not have the Holy Ghost".

Now to me the songs were "ok" but nothing to make me get up shouting everywhere. But in this intensely prejudiced mindset if you dont rejoice as they do you dont really have the Spirit.

If Paul Washer had been there he would be using it as sermon fodder attacking Pentecostals to this day.

So Oneness Pentecostals like Baptist and Luthern Hymns. Old time country gospel. Choir type singing. Those are "acceptable" genres of music.

Oneness Pentecostals like all kinds of hymns and songs. I have found most of them prefer contemporary music and generally have abandoned hymns, at least the larger churches and those trying to get larger (ie going mainstream).

Personally, to me, if you REQUIRE a certain type of music or certain songs - or even music at all - to "shout" or otherwise express fervent worship and praise, something's missing. And it isn't the music...

Michael The Disciple · #66 06-01-2016, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Oneness Pentecostals like all kinds of hymns and songs. I have found most of them prefer contemporary music and generally have abandoned hymns, at least the larger churches and those trying to get larger (ie going mainstream).

Personally, to me, if you REQUIRE a certain type of music or certain songs - or even music at all - to "shout" or otherwise express fervent worship and praise, something's missing. And it isn't the music...

Well yeah.

Esaias · #67 06-01-2016, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Another glorious praise from IHOP!

Your Worthy Of It All

BTW this isn't a bad song at all. Its essentially a Scripture song.

I could do without the light show, though...

mfblume · #68 06-01-2016, 07:05 PM

I disagree with the lyrics of the Misty Edwards song, as they involve a strong charismatic error. God is not doing a new thing that wasn't already done in the book of Acts.

Michael The Disciple · #69 06-01-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I disagree with the lyrics of the Misty Edwards song, as they involve a strong charismatic error. God is not doing a new thing that wasn't already done in the book of Acts.

Yes you would disagree with Misty and with me. I see it the same way she does.