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Originally Posted by Jason B
Thank you.
I do not believe that those who deny the cross, deny that Jesus died on the cross, or deny that He rose again from the grave are saved. I don't believe there is any salvation outside of Jesus Christ, and though I believe that God could even have reconciled all of creation to Himself through Christ (universalism), He seems to have chosen to limit salvation only to those who will repent of their sins and believe in Christ during THIS lifetime. Hence, I would agree with you that athiests, agnostics, Hindus, Buddhists, Rastafaris, Zoroastrians, Muslims, Jews, and anyone else who denies the truth of the atonement of Jesus on the cross cannot be saved. *BUT* that wasn't the subject of the thread, nor in any of my postings here or elsewhere have I ever proposed such to be saved (contrary to the misleading implications of Benincasa). My only argument is that I think there is a Biblical case that can be made that there is hope of salvation for those who claim to know Christ, believe in His atoning death, and in His resurrection, in the forgiveness of sins through Him, regardless of denomination, because we are justified by faith. Not by works, and not by theology, soteriolgy, eschatology, anthropology, ecclesiology, or anything else that we tend to make necessary to the minimizing of God's grace.
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my guess, from many, many Scriptures, is that God is even more gracious than this, but this mostly just involves not being in denial about passages that are not immediately understood, even though they are plain--they just contrast with the precious and spurious law that religion demands, and ignore the spiritual nature that the words are trying to convey.
And i am sorry, but it is strictly Mike's fantasy that i have denied the cross in any form, that is strictly a means to deflect from his problem.
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