Are all Catholics lost?

[Evang.Benincasa]

[shazeep]

yet you cannot quote me saying anyone is saved, and Scripture tells us that those who insist they know, know nothing. Guess that gets left out of the indoc, tho, huh.

[shazeep]

Woe to the women who sew magic bands on the wrist of every hand and who make veils for the heads of people of every height in order to ensnare lives. Will you ensnare the lives of My people but preserve your own?p 19You profane Me in front of My people for handfuls of barleyq and scraps of bread; you kill those who should not die and spare those who should not live, when you lie to My people, who listen to lies.

[mfblume]

So consistently pulling scripture out of context.

1 Cor 8 speaks of idolatry when people know things that have that knowledge make them feel superior and exalted just by possession of that knowledge to the point they cause those walk in the truth and faith to lose out with God altogether by wounding their spirits. The context goes on to say that when a person genuinely KNOWS a truth and clashes with someone who does not, and puts in their faces and causes a wounding of the other's conscience, there is the lacking of charity. For example, if someone things sabbath keeping is still intact today, and another correctly knows that is not the case, and the other puts it in the face of the sabbathkeeper by chopping wood in his front yard for the sabbath keeper to see, then that one's superior knowledge is being abused, for it is better to cater to the weak faith of the other and not offend him or her. THAT is the context of KNOWLEDGE and KNOWING. -- not this idea of thinking we solidly and firmly know truth, so we must be wrong. This makes people think we cannot really know truth when the same writer stated emphatically we had better know plain truth throughout the book of Romans.

[shazeep]

well, i guess the authoritay has spoken, huh. If that consistently gets you to "everyone who does not believe in me is lost" then i am not interested, but you are certainly within your rights to espouse your opinions, and prevent the Spirit from guiding as many as you are able. I don't need a translator for "you think you know," when "they are all lost" is right in my face, but ty all the same.

[shazeep]

funny to me that your fascist religion is on exactly the same trajectory as your fascist state

[thephnxman]

ARE all catholics lost . . . ? That's not really a fair question.

Everyone is lost that denies or rejects the gospel that saves. Is anyone
saved, who rejects [". . . the NAME that is above every name that is
named . . ."]? For the scripture insists: ". . . there is none other NAME
whereby we must be saved."

Or can one still be saved, and deny ". . . the mission of sins . . ." in the
waters of baptism? Or was the Apostle Peter speaking of his own self, or
was it by the Holy Spirit? Or did the Lord Jesus speak in vain when he said,
". . . that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his NAME,
among all nations . . ."?

Or perhaps we should only preach repentance, and STOP THERE: and LIE
about about everything else? I have one more question:

Why does this forum allow the spirit of Jezebel "...to teach and to
seduce my servants to commit fornication..."?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

yet you cannot quote me saying anyone is saved, and Scripture tells us that those who insist they know, know nothing. Guess that gets left out of the indoc, tho, huh.

Wow, even more ludicrous, know one knows anything? You believe that no one knows if they have salvation or if they don't have salvation? Dude, the more you post the more insane you sound.

No guessing here chief, you are certifiable.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Wow, even more ludicrous, know one knows anything? You believe that no one knows if they have salvation or if they don't have salvation? Dude, the more you post the more insane you sound.
No guessing here chief, you are certifiable.

Have you noticed that those who don't know, don't know?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, i guess the authoritay has spoken,

Whose Authoritay?

Oh is that like Hebrew for Dorthy?

You are off to see the Wizard?

Originally Posted by shazeep

huh.

Yes, that sums up most of your posting.

Originally Posted by shazeep

If that consistently gets you to "everyone who does not believe in me is lost"

That's your problem, it's all about you and the world outside of your world. You can't see it, because you (like Jake & Elwood Blues) believe you are on a mission from God. Therefore you are sent to straighten out all the unbelievers. Unbelievers are those who you feel aren't "loving" or "kind" enough to reach what you believe is necessary to meet your criteria. It isn't about scripture as a whole, but only the parts you cherry pick to prove that it's all about being nicer than Jesus.

Originally Posted by shazeep

then i am not interested,

But of course your not interested, you are only interested in what comes out of your own mind. Seriously it seems to be all about you, and when someone doesn't agree with YOU you have an issue and want to straighten them out with your theories. You tell Brother Blume that he is the voice of authority which has just spoken, but isn't it funny how you want us to salute whatever you fly up the flag pole?

Originally Posted by shazeep

but you are certainly within your rights to espouse your opinions, and prevent the Spirit from guiding as many as you are able.

Dude, isn't that what you do?

Originally Posted by shazeep

I don't need a translator for "you think you know," when "they are all lost" is right in my face, but ty all the same.

Well, he doesn't know outside of the what the Bible is SHOWING him. He is just relaying the scriptures, you are given a chance to refute what he is posting by SHOWING your exegesis with scripture. Instead of your own thoughts and feelings independent of book, chapter, and verse.