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01-02-2011, 01:06 PM
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DOING THE FIRST WORKS
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
Incidentally,
Just in case some folks here don't believe in doing anything to answer the call from God to be saved, I want everyone to know that I'm repented and doing THE FIRST WORKS, lest Jesus comes to remove my candlestick, leaving me in darkness.
Let the rest sleep. There is neither fear, work or obedience in sleep.
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Staying Busy REPENTING and DOING THE FIRST WORKS
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08-17-2016, 10:16 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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"Anything in addition to grace, isn't grace."
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08-17-2016, 10:32 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by notofworks
"Notice what large letters I use as I write these closing words in my own handwriting. Those who are trying to force you to be circumcised are doing it for just one reason. They don't want to be persecuted for teaching that the cross of Christ alone can save."
Galatians 6:11-12 NLT
These things really hit me today as I read this today:
1) The cross of Christ alone can save.
2) If we add one thing at all to the saving power of the cross, we can add anything. When does it stop?
3) Among all the debates as to how many steps there are to salvation, we seem to miss the fact that the only step that matters is the step taken by Christ on the cross.
4) There clearly is a cost to pay if one teaches that the cross of Christ alone can save.
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08-17-2016, 10:45 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
huh?
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08-17-2016, 12:23 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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These things really hit me today as I read this today:
1) The cross of Christ alone can save.
2) If we add one thing at all to the saving power of the cross, we can add anything. When does it stop?
3) Among all the debates as to how many steps there are to salvation, we seem to miss the fact that the only step that matters is the step taken by Christ on the cross.
4) There clearly is a cost to pay if one teaches that the cross of Christ alone can save.
The "Cross of Christ" can only refer to the gospel that saves.
1) Jesus on the cross means he DIED: nothing else. He still needed to be
buried (proof he had died); and the resurrection was also pending (proof
of the acceptance of the sacrifice).
2) The cross, of itself, doesn't save: the othe elements must be active;
3) ALL THE STEPS matter;
4) That's why we must be very explicit in stating the gospel.
Believing the gospel is good: KNOWING the gospel is better!
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08-18-2016, 06:52 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
rectifying it with your first love is best.
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08-18-2016, 08:48 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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rectifying it with your first love is best.
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Your first love, as with all muslims, is the love for allah, whom the
Apostle Paul called ". . . the god of this world." Yet not the God that
CREATED this world, even the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:
but the god to those who reject the gospel that saves.
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08-18-2016, 09:02 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
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Originally Posted by mfblume
These things really hit me today as I read this today:
1) The cross of Christ alone can save.
2) If we add one thing at all to the saving power of the cross, we can add anything. When does it stop?
3) Among all the debates as to how many steps there are to salvation, we seem to miss the fact that the only step that matters is the step taken by Christ on the cross.
4) There clearly is a cost to pay if one teaches that the cross of Christ alone can save.
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The "Cross of Christ" can only refer to the gospel that saves.
1) Jesus on the cross means he DIED: nothing else. He still needed to be
buried (proof he had died); and the resurrection was also pending (proof
of the acceptance of the sacrifice).
2) The cross, of itself, doesn't save: the othe elements must be active;
3) ALL THE STEPS matter;
4) That's why we must be very explicit in stating the gospel.
Believing the gospel is good: KNOWING the gospel is better!
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Amen. The reason I bumped this is because of all the anti-cross rhetoric that folks like shazeep have proposed, after he posted in this thread, resurrecting it again, AS WELL AS taking advantage of the first post and showing that all of the alleged STEPS accused to be AFTER the cross are actually not steps distinct from the cross. Who started that nonsense of STEPS anyway? IT's all the ONE BIG STEP OF THE CROSS! Repentance, baptism and Holy Ghost are all ONE BIG STEP. This accusation of three steps is ridiculous.
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08-18-2016, 09:06 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
[QUOTE=mfblume;1444467]
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
Amen. The reason I bumped this is because of all the anti-cross rhetoric that folks like shazeep have proposed, after he posted in this thread, resurrecting it again, AS WELL AS taking advantage of the first post and showing that all of the alleged STEPS accused to be AFTER the cross are actually not steps distinct from the cross. Who started that nonsense of STEPS anyway? IT's all the ONE BIG STEP OF THE CROSS! Repentance, baptism and Holy Ghost are all ONE BIG STEP. This accusation of three steps is ridiculous.
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I like it.
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08-18-2016, 09:23 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
Your first love, as with all muslims, is the love for allah, whom the
Apostle Paul called ". . . the god of this world." Yet not the God that
CREATED this world, even the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:
but the god to those who reject the gospel that saves.
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then it seems to me that you must identify those who say they have accepted this gospel, and even claim great works because of it, and yet hear i never knew you.
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