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Originally Posted by Esaias
Yes, indeed, it IS simple. Which is why you seem to be avoiding the point about works, which is that nobody with zero works is saved even though works aren't done to be saved.
If one has never spoken in tongues, they have not the Biblical evidence of having received the Spirit. And if there is no evidence of receiving the Spirit, there is no basis for believing they have the Spirit. And if there is no basis for believing they have the Spirit, there is no basis for believing they are saved, unless one can be assured of salvation apart from having the Spirit.
One does not speak in tongues to be saved. Rather, one believes in Christ, Who testifies to one's faith by giving the Spirit. And the giving of the Spirit is accompanied by the individual speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. It also results in works that demonstrate their continued faith in Christ. But one does not do works to be saved.
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Salvation depends on two acts of obedience that one can do: Faith/repentance and baptism. The next act - receiving the Spirit, depends on the Lord, and is a sign that follows the initial act of being saved, per
Mark 16:15 and
Acts 2:38.
So, if one believes, repents, and is baptized, and does not receive the gift of tongues, are they saved, yes or no?
You see this is a subjective thing. What if you want to be saved, and seek and seek and seek and never receive the gift of tongues? What then?
This is the problem with the OP understanding. Can God choose NOT to give someone the gift of tongues, yet still fill them with His spirit?
Can we judge someone to not be saved when they have not spoken in tongues, because God has not gifted them with the tongue gift?
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