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Originally Posted by Esaias
So, one can be saved but not have the Spirit? No.
Can one be saved and yet not born of the Spirit? No
Can one be saved, all the way to the end, and wind up not entering the kingdom? That's God's call.
And why did you switch to talking about "receiving the GIFT OF TONGUES"? None of us have argued one must receive the GIFT OF TONGUES to be saved.
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I grew up in OP and I know perfectly well that they earnestly believe one must speak in tongues or they are not saved.
I believe that A MEASURE of the spirit of the Lord enters the heart upon repentance because of the following scripture:
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
And upon obedience, the full measure of the spirit can be afforded in the life of one who has believed, and been obedient, and the gift of tongues can be part of that experience, but as
Mark 16:16 demonstrates, the initial experience of salvation includes repentance and baptism.
I believe that the spirit of the Lord draws man to Him, and upon obedience by repentance and baptism, a measure of the spirit of the Lord comes into that life. And upon continuing in full obedience, as taught by the disciples and apostles, the fruit of the spirit will be manifested in the lives of those who have believed and been obedient.
To say the gift of tongues is necessary to know if one is saved or not is not taught anywhere in the NT.
I stand on what the scriptures say, and do not add or take away from the simple written truths.
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