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Originally Posted by Esaias
Short on time, but a quick look makes me think you actually proved one of my points here.
Paul speaks of a LAW of sin, not a FORCE. Moreover, he clearly stated in ch 6 that bondage to sin begins with a voluntary act of the individual.
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It's both, Esaias!.
The law of sin is stated in
Romans 7:21
Romans 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
The law states that a FORCE kicks into effect we WE try to do good. WE is you and I without the help of God. WE, ON OUR OWN, without God's help, try to do good and WE WILL ULTIMATELY FAIL.
But WITH GOD it's a different story:
Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Contrasted from:
Romans 7:19-20 For
the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. (20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Paul said the same thing earlier, before he realized it was a law in his younger years:
Romans 7:7-8 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (8) But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
That force is dormant, as it were, until a commandment comes. When that commandment comes and we TRY to do good, it is alive and well and overcomes our will to do good and makes us do bad.
Aquila has it right. Our flesh has URGES --- everyone's flesh NO one is exempt! It's an innate force.
How did it get there? ADAM.
Paul said SIN was the culprit NOT HIMSELF:
Romans 7:19-20 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. (20) Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Why was it no more Paul? That is because Paul will to do good. So, the old saying is a lie when it says WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY. Paul had the will. But could not find the ability to perform it.