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Old 06-26-2017, 11:42 AM
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Surely we can agree that all culture has changed since creation. I just cant see why we cant agree that clothing would change with it.
  • We agree that Deut 22:5 is about cross dressing.
  • We agree that until very recently women wore dresses and not pants.
  • We agree that culture is changing.
  • What we don't agree on is that culture is necessarily changing for the better and that we should adopt all of the changes.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:45 AM
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  • We agree that Deut 22:5 is about cross dressing.
  • We agree that until very recently women wore dresses and not pants.
  • We agree that culture is changing.
  • What we don't agree on is that culture is necessarily changing for the better and that we should adopt all of the changes.
If you believe Deut 22:5 is about cross dressing, in your opinion why was this an issue at the time?
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:56 AM
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I agree with you that clothing has changed with culture. The things that motivate the change though has a lot to do with wether or not it is of God. The femiminist movement had a lot to do with women wearing pants today. Do you think that women should be in the military, police dept., fire dept., etc.?
I wasn't asked, but, no. Women do not belong in the military, police dept, fire dept...

This coming from one who is considered "liberal."
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:57 AM
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Surely we can agree that all culture has changed since creation. I just cant see why we cant agree that clothing would change with it.
It does. I've mentioned that T-shirts were designed specifically for men, yet we have no issue with women wearing them. In addition, historically speaking, both high heels and even hosiery were originally men's attire, and it was a scandal when women began wearing them. However, today both high heels and hosiery are considered women's attire.

In all honesty, it seems like "pants" are the only article of clothing conservatives on this issue are focused on.

Imagine the look on my face when an Apostolic woman is wearing a skirt with T-shirt and I'm told that she wears a skirt because pants pertain to a man.

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Old 06-26-2017, 12:01 PM
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  • We agree that Deut 22:5 is about cross dressing.
  • We agree that until very recently women wore dresses and not pants.
  • We agree that culture is changing.
  • What we don't agree on is that culture is necessarily changing for the better and that we should adopt all of the changes.
I remember hearing it preached that no "real Apostolic" would ever allow the internet into their home.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:19 PM
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I wasn't asked, but, no. Women do not belong in the military, police dept, fire dept...

This coming from one who is considered "liberal."
Why?
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:21 PM
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Why?
I take the bus 4 1/2 hours to get to church and this is what we believe.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:23 PM
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If you believe Deut 22:5 is about cross dressing, in your opinion why was this an issue at the time?
Good question.

I don't think the bible makes it clear if people were actually cross dressing or not in the old Testament.

God made us male and female. Pants were worn by priests in the OT and that was a male profession. And even today males are supposed to be the leaders of their homes. possibly this is why is was a prohibition in the OT.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:47 PM
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Good question.

I don't think the bible makes it clear if people were actually cross dressing or not in the old Testament.

God made us male and female. Pants were worn by priests in the OT and that was a male profession. And even today males are supposed to be the leaders of their homes. possibly this is why is was a prohibition in the OT.
I am sure you have heard the phrase " she wears the pants in that family" or " we know who wears the pants in that family". We all know this is not talking about actual "pants". Now a thousand years ago or a thousand years from now this phrase may not mean the same to a reader. I believe if you take Duet 22:5 in context and then the fact that there was no "dress code" mentioned in scripture from creation till the Mosaic law then the writer can not be referring to actual apparel.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:52 PM
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it was talking about actual garments, see link below


http://biblehub.com/interlinear/deuteronomy/22-5.htm
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