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Old 07-31-2017, 02:54 PM
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Re: Releasing the Power of God:

When using the word "releasing" or "release" what we are speaking of is "unleashing" or "loosing":
Matthew 16:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
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I have yet to read where Jesus held back anything from any one or two of His disciples. This notion that God would will one believer may have power to heal, but would withhold that power from another who has the same faithfulness and consecration to God, is not found in His instructions to the Disciples or His statement in Mark 16.

"These signs SHALL follow them that believe." There is no fine print, no exclusions, etc, in that scripture.
1 Cor 12 explicitly states not all have the same gifts, including gifts of healing or working of miracles.
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Re: Releasing the Power of God:

Did Peter weep and beg God to heal and raise this girl? Or did Peter loose the power of God by speaking life and healing into her body?
Acts 9:40-42
40 But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up.
41 And he gave her his hand, and lifted her up, and when he had called the saints and widows, presented her alive.
42 And it was known throughout all Joppa; and many believed in the Lord.
Peter released the power of God through his spoken word. He spoke to the mountain (this girl's circumstance) and said, "Tabitha, arise."

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When using the word "releasing" or "release" what we are speaking of is "unleashing" or "loosing":
Matthew 16:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Have you emptied the local sick ward, yet?

Binding and loosing has to do with church discipline, authority, etc. It was a common phrase among Jews and referred to rabbinic authority to make decisions regarding practical application of Torah. Christ gave that authority to His church (see Ex 18:22 and 1 Cor 6:4).

The concept of "releasing or unleashing supernatural power" is occultism, plain and simple.

Where did Jesus teach anyone to "unleash the power"? Where did the apostles teach anyone to "release the power"? Nowhere, that's where.

Stay away from Kenny Hagin, and his crew. It's only downhill all the way.
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1 Cor 12 explicitly states not all have the same gifts, including gifts of healing or working of miracles.
I believe that some may have a specific gifting in which they operate naturally in the Spirit, but I do not believe that this means that just because one hasn't ever operated in another gift, such as the gift of healing, they absolutely can't do so.
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Have you emptied the local sick ward, yet?
You just went personal. What spirit are you of?

If what you said was of the Spirit, it would not be a personal attack or insult.

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I believe that some may have a specific gifting in which they operate naturally in the Spirit, but I do not believe that this means that just because one hasn't ever operated in another gift, such as the gift of healing, they absolutely can't do so.
I never said that. Anyone can be used to do anything that God chooses.

Key phrase: "that God chooses."
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1 Cor 12 explicitly states not all have the same gifts, including gifts of healing or working of miracles.
What happened between Mark 16 and 1 Cor 12? What changed?

Why does Paul contradict what Jesus said?

Jesus: "These signs shall follow them that believe ..."
Paul: One of you gets word of knowledge, one of you gets faith, one gets healing...

So now it's eenie meenie minie moe, you get healing, you don't? Duck, duck, goose? You get healing, you get healing, you're the drummer?

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What happened between Mark 16 and 1 Cor 12? What changed?

Why does Paul contradict what Jesus said?

So now it's eenie meenie minie moe, you get healing, you don't? Duck, duck, goose? You get healing, you get healing, you're the drummer?
Nothing changed from Mark to Corinthians. Paul does not contradict Jesus. There is no "gift of drumming."
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I never said that. Anyone can be used to do anything that God chooses.

Key phrase: "that God chooses."
Amen. As God chooses. And I believe that God can choose to honor words of faith and intention.
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