More On Beards

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

As my current pastor says, "There is more Bible for beards, than against them".
However, he also notes that the Bible specifically speaks against shaping the beard.
Which means the Duck Dynasty look is the way to go if you have one.

Why do people keep repeating stuff that was already dealt with?

It prohibits goatees or "partial" beards. It says nothing about the length, as far as I can determine.

Besides, how do people say "no Bible against beards but I'm agin' 'em"???

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The NT doesn't prohibit a beard, nor does it require a beard. Such stipulations are silly and unbiblical.

There's nothing in the bible specific about movies, tv, theater, sporting events, etc. Yet a lot of churches are against its members and especially its leadership watching or attending.

Pastors are not wrong for wanting a certain standard for leadership, be it a moral code or dress code.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Why do people keep repeating stuff that was already dealt with?

It prohibits goatees or "partial" beards. It says nothing about the length, as far as I can determine.

Besides, how do people say "no Bible against beards but I'm agin' 'em"???

The same way they say, "no Bible against smoking and drugs, but I'm against them."

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

The same way they say, "no Bible against smoking and drugs, but I'm against them."

Ah, but there IS Bible FOR beards. Big difference. There is also clear Bible AGAINST intoxication, as well as being controlled by the flesh, which are principles that apply to and regulate the issues of using chemicals for recreational purposes, whatever they may be.

[houston]

Why don't we just go with beard on one side of the face...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Does anyone personally know of any UPC church which preaches beards are a sin? I'm unaware of any which preach that having a beard is a sin, as has been claimed here. I personally know a few UPC churches here which allow beards. The UPC church I attend currently does not preach having a beard is a sin.

I have never ever heard a UPCI pastor, or evangelist ever say that a beard was a sin. It goes along with the long uncut hair talisman, unicorns and flat earth positions which are supposedly preached in the UPCI.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by returnman

I would have to agree with Evang on the wrecked individuals that verbalize shirt sleeve lengths and other trivial matters while living in a spiritual mess. Churches leave a lot of wreckage along the highway of life, oneness no exceptions. Another way to interpret this outspoken behavior over petty standards would be the cry for help out of the carnage surrounding their life left on the side of the road by some abusive individual that thought it better to cut off the member of the body for the good of the whole.

My point is this, while some individuals will harp against Conservative Apostolic churches which hold to standards of separation. All wanting to debate an issue while they openly stated that they are all upside down in their own religious experience. This always gets a raised eyebrow from the unchurched. It is like a guy in a topless bar, explaining Acts 2:38 to one of the dancers. While what he is saying is Bible truth, and she may or may not get anything out of it, he is still reprobate.

But, carnage from teaching standards? If taught properly it can be a blessing. But I rarely have anyone discuss this subject without bringing up the First Church of Dr Moreau. Where the pastor is some despot, who teaches Bible study with a whip and a chair. Listening to these stories one would think that some of those who left Conservative One God Apostolic movement was because they attended Gladiator School, instead of Sunday school. While I read these posts I often wonder what the other side has to say about the whole experience? Did the pastor actually burn the saints with cigarettes? All while the saints were tied in their pews. Was the pastor Leather Face from Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I wouldn't know, but I pray that no one has such an awful experience.

[Esaias]

First Church of Dr Moreau.

That's funny right there.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

First Church of Dr Moreau.

That's funny right there.

The house of pain.

[votivesoul]

Serious question here:

Is the Oneness movement the only movement where this is an issue, or are there other groups, denoms, or organizations that go round and round about facial hair like ours seem to do?

My experience is pretty limited to only Oneness Apostolic Christianity, and so, I don't have any working knowledge of how others treat the topic. Any info or links would be appreciated, if shared. Thanks.