
04-19-2018, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sebastian, FL
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Re: Do we have to pay tithes?
was looking through old threads on tithes and found this
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I am sadden some of you had such bad experiences with some pastors like someone quoted Ezk. 34 will get them. But since you have listed your complaints about preachers who evidently are more concerned about money than the ministry itself would you allow me to tell the other side?
In my years of pastoring we have slept in the church, driven automobiles we prayed would make it to the store, bought clothes at second hand stores. I have given my last dime to needy saints, bought their kids shoes & clothes, paid their way to youth camps, took folks to work when they had no car, cleared their walks of snow so the elderly would not fall. My wife has bathed the elderly saints, took thwm shopping and to the drug store and hospital, interupted our own plans to sit at hospitals all night long(many times without so much as a thank you).
Now for the church we have been janitors when some saints would know where the mop or broom is found at the church. If a need for the church came yes I have paid it gladly without burdening the saints and let my own personal needs go. If anyone had to tighten thier belt because giving was lean it wasn't the saints it was us. When revival offerings were low I made up the difference. When some 'forgot' their missionary pledges I made them up. When home missionaries were struggling yes I did without and gave to them. I have helped churches I will never see because there was a need out of my pocket. I have bought struggling preachers suits, shoes, their family's clothes. Fixed evangelist's trucks, trailers. Sent clothes to missionaries. Sold my own goods to saints to give preachers a decent offering.
I am not complaining. But am I suppose to be ashamed because now God has blessed me for being a giver? My cars are nicer, my home is comfortable, my clothes were not purchased at goodwill, I can eat a little better than McDonalds.
I can buy my wife a new dress ever now and then. And might even take a few days off and call it a vacation(though I could be called back anytime).
I have learned givers preachers and saints are blessed. I have yet to meet my first non-tither who claims to give Jesus all give 10%. They are tightwad and thieves and think of no one but themselves. The church could not operate normally much less have revival or support missionaries on what they give. Their 'tithes' is in boats, fishing and hunting gear, cars, homes, vacations, they tithe to themselves. If you had a million of them you could not operate a church on them. they are the same folks that are not faithful or float from place to place. Spiritual gipsies and hitchhickers letting someone else pay the gas.There would be no churches, camps, missions, evangelists. pastors if you was depending on them. They come when they want they are more faithful to their tv shows than they are to God. Then when they show up they want you to announce 'we are soooooooooooooooo blessed with their presence.'
So folks it ain't one sided. I will repent for all the money loving preachers who thnk they own the church and the saints if someone will apologize for all the money loving saints who wander from pillar to post with their hand out mooching spiritual things because they don't have a cent invested in it.
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